Poll

Is it.

yes. killed by colonel mustard.
20 (22.7%)
no. killed by miss scarlett
3 (3.4%)
killed by mrs. white
5 (5.7%)
killed by reverend green
3 (3.4%)
Professor Plum.
7 (8%)
killed by mrs pearooster
11 (12.5%)
with a lead pipe
3 (3.4%)
with a revolver
6 (6.8%)
with a wrench
4 (4.5%)
with a rope
13 (14.8%)
with a dagger
3 (3.4%)
with a candlestick
10 (11.4%)

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i deeply hope this is full, unadulterated irony
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English has a stuff ton of grammar rules, mostly because of the fact that "hurr english is superior therefore we must make it complicated as forget to communicate so we sound smarter".

are you kidding me. english is easy as forget. conjugation is as simple as it can be and words have little to no grammatical gender.

i hope you guys are at least bilingual 'cause otherwise no wonder you'd think english is a difficult language

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English has a stuff ton of grammar rules, mostly because of the fact that "hurr english is superior therefore we must make it complicated as forget to communicate so we sound smarter".


English is so complicated that we teach it to kids.
I mean, how can anyone handle the loving burden of having to put in punctuation and capitalization at correct spaces? Oh no!
Putting words together and paying attention to grammar? Oh forget me, we have to do some work to make sure we aren't handicapped! I'd rather speak caveman!
« Last Edit: June 25, 2015, 01:44:33 PM by TeeOS »

no wonder so many other countries are full of savages. no rules will do that to ya.

:^)

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English has a stuff ton of grammar rules, mostly because of the fact that "hurr english is superior therefore we must make it complicated as forget to communicate so we sound smarter".
english isn't even the most complicated language

take this word from Nuxalk/Bella Coola, an american indian language:
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xłp̓x̣ʷłtłpłłskʷc̓
[xɬχʷɬɬɬːskʷʰt͡sʼ]
'he had had in his possession a bunchberry plant.'
now if you don't know IPA there's basically no vowels in there, and it's basically just weird ass sounds, some weird K, P, T and L sounds, and basically just death. i've linked most of the sounds and added abbreviations (hover on a letter) for some with a sound file that's not so clear or that have no file.

all that's bad about english is the spelling rules really.

I'd rather speak caveman!
a hypothetical "caveman" language would be just as complicated as any other language

yes. engrish the imposter will no longer exist.

Esperanto is supposed to be simple

Esperanto is supposed to be simple
if you want a simple constructed language check vyrmag out
kyun ae spyeg vyrmag

and it has simple pronunciation
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i guess you mean a fairly small set of sounds or w/e but the phonetics of english are the slightest bit goofy

English is so complicated that we teach it to kids.
I agree with you that English isn't an excessively complicated language, but this point is a rather moot one.

If you are referencing the teaching of English to babies as their first language, then it's irrelevant, as every language that is taught as a first language has been taught simply to babies. Babies learn their parents language easily, and there's some evidence that they even start learning within the womb, at least recognising the pitch patterns spoken around them.
A baby doesn't find learning their parents language easy or difficult, and as such can learn any language with ease. I'm pretty sure there have even been some children who were taught fictional languages (like Klingon) as their first language.

If you meant teaching it to kids though, as a second language, this is also not a fair point.
Children are significantly better at learning second languages than young-adults and adults. Even the most complicated language would be easier to teach to a child than it would be to a mature adult. The complexity of a language doesn't change whether we teach it to children or not, hence there are children who learn things like Latin, Ancient Greek, as well as modern foreign languages, like French, Spanish, Mandarin and Japanese.

And if you meant teaching it to kids, as in English lessons within English-speaking countries, that's not really teaching a language.
That's teaching advanced vocabulary and grammar, but is also significantly about teaching different means of writing, such as poetry and prose, and oratory and other oral skills. Things which aren't strictly necessary to have learnt the language. If you were a French-born French-speaking child in France, you'd be having French lessons with the same emphasis, but you'd already be fluent in French.


If you're going to compare the ease of learning a language then you should have to compare it from the standpoint of an adult person, learning it as a second language (and without having learnt any similar languages, such as a French-speaker learning Spanish).


English is the global language.
The majority of international communication is in English.
It is also the mostly widely spoken language by number of countries, being spoken as an official language by 67 different nations. Furthermore, it's the recognised official language of the Commonwealth of Nations, and is recognised as an official language of the United Nations and the European Union (which is of note given that Ireland, Malta and the United Kingdom are the only 3 nations in Europe that officially speak English).

english isnt hard to learn as long as you keep the lessons consistent tbh
« Last Edit: June 25, 2015, 05:07:11 PM by F3d323 »

english isnt hard to learn as long as you keep the lessons consistent tbh
just like learning anything else i guess

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English has a stuff ton of grammar rules, mostly because of the fact that "hurr english is superior therefore we must make it complicated as forget to communicate so we sound smarter".


you know hes dutch/somewhere near there right

he had to learn it at some point

what english isn't the only language?

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i deeply hope this is full, unadulterated irony
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English has a stuff ton of grammar rules, mostly because of the fact that "hurr english is superior therefore we must make it complicated as forget to communicate so we sound smarter".

Allow me to introduce a 'naamval' (english doesn't even have a word for it).

In English, this entire grid would be 'the'. All of it.
Add to that there's almost no accents on letters.
No D/T-doubts on any words.
No difference or importance in male/female words.
Only 1 defined object (the) and 1 undefined (a).
Most of the words are pronounced the exact way they're written.

I honestly can't think of a real language (so no Esperanto as that was made to be easy to learn) that's easier to learn.

Also, as for my personal experience, I learned English basically by playing Runescape, so it can't be that hard to learn.
Also², I learned French, German, English and Latin (but that doesn't count 'cause it's dead) in school for like 8 years each and English was the easiest by far. And that's coming from a Dutch guy learning German, which is that stupid language everyone thinks I'm typing when I'm typing in Dutch because they're so alike. And yet still English is easier.

English is reaaaly easy compared to other languages.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2015, 05:38:35 PM by TheArmyGuy »

I think the reason some may find it hard is that it is a bastard mongrel buccaneer blend of all sorts of other languages in grammar and vocabulary, taking what it chooses from Sanskrit or German as it pleases, and so it has a tendency toward exceptions and whatnot.  I dunno, just throwing it out there.