Who killed Mr. Boddy in the study and with what?: the great debate topic™®

[Master Matthew²]

Source?

are you asking for my source...
on asking for evidence?


What

Where's your evidence that it hasn't been edited? Burden of proof rests on you here. It would be completely reasonable, and in fact would make perfect sense, for them to edit it to say that. Having a random "No" at the start of the sentence doesn't sound nice, having it just say "I am your father" is too short and doesn't tell to whom it's referring, so "Luke, I am your father" makes the most sense for them to make a more memorable christmas ornament.

First where is your evidence it has been edited?
The claim requires evidence, or evidence based suspicion at least.
So no, the burden of proof doesn't rest of me here, as you are the one making the claim it is fake.

And on top of that, even if they did edit the line in, where and how the hell did they get the actor to do the line par for par exact, but with one word change for a fan toy?

But because you've taken it this far, the reasoning is simple
Because every video review on this ornament has the same voice.
https://youtu.be/mIRZi2TP6_I?t=6m29s

Post Ninja Edit Quote:

But even if you did prove that it's unedited that still wouldn't prove that there are parallel universes, all it would "prove" is that the movie studio forgeted up and gave them the wrong audio file.

Again.

And on top of that, even if they did edit the line in, where and how the hell did they get the actor to do the line par for par exact, but with a single word changed?

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[beachbum111111]

are you asking for my source...
on asking for evidence?


WhatFirst where is your evidence it has been edited?
The claim requires evidence, or evidence based suspicion at least.
So no, the burden of proof doesn't rest of me here, as you are the one making the claim it is fake.

And on top of that, even if they did edit the line in, where and how the hell did they get the actor to do the line par for par exact, but with one word change for a fan toy?

But because you've taken it this far, the reasoning is simple
Because every video review on this ornament has the same voice.
https://youtu.be/mIRZi2TP6_I?t=6m29s

The burden of proof lies on you

[IkeTheGeneric]

I wish I lived in the universe where master matthew never made an account sometimes

[Master Matthew²]

The burden of proof lies on you

I made the base claim, gave the base evidence.

Claiming the evidence is false, requires further evidence.

Giving "what if possiblities" may be interesting, but things don't add up with these reasonings keeping the audio evidence in play.

Even if this is edited, how is it literally the exact audio clip as the original, with a different word?
Why does it exist?
Why isn't it in the movie?
Why would this line exist for a single toy?
How did it get there?

[The Resonte!]

I wish I lived in the universe where master matthew never made an account sometimes

if you sell your soul to me i can arrange that

[IkeTheGeneric]

gay people don't have a soul, resonte

[TheABELBOTO]

It's very likely they either A. were given the original recordings and they modified it to sound better, or B. They re-recorded the line incorrectly but sticked with it.

Either way it's handicapped and anyone who says it's proof of parallel universes are mental.

[Ipquarx]

First where is your evidence it has been edited?
The claim requires evidence, or evidence based suspicion at least.
So no, the burden of proof doesn't rest of me here, as you are the one making the claim it is fake.

I don't think you understand how burden of proof works. Let me explain:

You're the one trying to make a claim here: That the "mandella effect" is true, that some sort of parallel universe or some sort of similar timeline forgetery has occured. That means that burden of proof on this claim is on you. The "evidence" that you've provided so far is: "This christmas ornament has different audio from the movie." But that's not what you're actually saying. Because so what if it doesn't have the same audio, that proves nothing. It could be, and indeed would be entirely reasonable for it to be edited. What you're actually claiming is that "This christmas ornament does have the same audio as the movie, and is hence unedited. It seems incorrect because we're in a different timeline that had a different movie." Your claim rests upon the fact that the audio is unedited audio from the movie, and since that's part of the claim you're making, burden of proof is on you. I've told you why it's entirely reasonable for them to edit the clip, just pulling out a "Luke" from one of Darth's other voice lines or requesting it from the movie studio. This is called reasonable doubt. You have to do away with that reasonable doubt in order to "prove" your claim.

[The Resonte!]

gay people don't have a soul, resonte

you'll have to get someone to sell their soul to you then first >:(

[IkeTheGeneric]

here's my argument to this:

i don't have enough evidence to dispute matthew's claims; i do not know enough about alternate dimensions to dispute him. HOWEVER...take into account matthew's history of poor judgemental and reasoning skills... it's likelier that matthew is more susceptible to fall for some bullstuff than it is that he shifted between dimensions somewhere in the past 10 years. occam's razor dictates that is true until proven otherwise

[gr8dayseth]

Even if this is edited, how is it literally the exact audio clip as the original, with a different word?
Why does it exist?
Why isn't it in the movie?
Why would this line exist for a single toy?
How did it get there?

maybe that variation of the line is more memorable since people were already remembering it as that so they decided to change it for merch for the possibility to sell better

[MoltenKitten]

This "proof" is just glitches in the world's programming, lazy devs haven't gotten around to fixing it yet. Thinking there are multiple universes is handicapped when it is so obvious we are in a video game.

[Master Matthew²]

I don't think you understand how burden of proof works. Let me explain:

You're the one trying to make a claim here: That the "mandella effect" is true, that some sort of parallel universe or some sort of similar timeline forgetery has occured. That means that burden of proof on this claim is on you. The "evidence" that you've provided so far is: "This christmas ornament has different audio from the movie." But that's not what you're actually saying. Because so what if it doesn't have the same audio, that proves nothing. It could be, and indeed would be entirely reasonable for it to be edited. What you're actually claiming is that "This christmas ornament does have the same audio as the movie, and is hence unedited. It seems incorrect because we're in a different timeline that had a different movie." Your claim rests upon the fact that the audio is unedited audio from the movie, and since that's part of the claim you're making, burden of proof is on you.

Well, maybe claiming it as evidence is wrong, and I'm not searching for somone to disprove the mandela effect or prove it.

What I'm looking for is why no one can answer the questions I've posed without evidence, and only assumption, because something just isn't adding up here.

Even if this is edited, how is it literally the exact audio clip as the original, with a different word?
Why does it exist?
Why isn't it in the movie?
Why would this line exist for a single toy?
How did it get there?

If this is the edited line, why does it sound unedited, and perfect, and why would the line need to be edited in the first place?
The claim "No, I am your father" to take the line out of context doesn't really make sense, considering:
A. This is a Line in the movie that is literally the main plot twist, so your spoiling stuff, so its clear this isn't for everyone. (but yeah everyone knows it now.)
B. This is a fan toy, Christmas ornament, and the speakers just barely make it past the line of being able to hear it clear (and no mixing up 'luke' and 'no' in audio sound isn't possible, they don't even sound similar), so it's clear this wasn't an important memorobelia, so why bother? (maybe if I bought one and soldered an audio cable inside, it might have better audio output.)

[IkeTheGeneric]

it's likelier that you think it's real because you want to think it's real and not because it's actually real; the idea of solid evidence of alternate dimensions is more attractive then stupid internet people full of stuff

[Master Matthew²]

it's likelier that you think it's real because you want to think it's real and not because it's actually real

But the loving evidence?!
Why is it I'm not getting answers only 'lol you wrogng fggat."

Wtf?

Why the forget does this exist?
HOW THE forget is it literally the exact same sound pattern?