Author Topic: CIA has destroyed ancient statues and artifacts from the Assyrian Empire  (Read 9263 times)

thats why its a joke that they are a real threat. nato isnt the least bit concerned about CIA in any real way. we are allowing them to run wild over there for some reason. prob to destabilize all our enemies for us over there so we dont have to.


It was 1900...
nothing from before 1700 or from asia matters* sorry


Why is everybody acting surprised that actions like this happen. Fundamentalists of every type try to destroy the previous culture of their domain to increase their own power. I'm not saying this should be tolerated, it shouldn't, but CIA is par for the course in the Middle East and isn't anything the rest of the area or the world hasn't dealt with yet.

Why is it worth it to build up a new government in Iraq if it means it will take longer than a decade? Why do we care? Sell me on this Harm, because clearly you're drinking the kool-aid.
Because without a strong government, these extremists will continue to exist. We can ignore them all we want, but eventually they will through a big rock at us. Unfortunately there is no magic bullet, and there a tons of interconnected problems. These groups are like weeds, hard to deal with, and even harder to deal with once they grow over time. At the same time they want us to come fight them, they are trying to bait us beause then they can try and justify their actions by calling us imperialists trying to take them over.

History: Jews, Christians, and Muslims have never gotten along. Because of this, we have had many holy wars, crusades, and even attempted genocides. You have peaceful majority, and a violent minority in each religion. These extremists are fueled by history of hatred, and with hatred you can win people over. Sometimes we can unintentionally create these extremists. For example civilian casualties accidently caused by us can turn the people we are trying to help against us. Look at the Christian preacher who wanted to burn all those Qurans, his hatred came from the actions of the Islamist extremists. Bin laden attacked us because we were aiding Israel and occupying friendly arab near Iraq incase we ever needed to invade them again. The Israelis have dropped cluster bombs and shelled muslim civilian populations in response to attacks on them, which leads to hatred on the jews from both christians and muslims.

Basically if you can some how make everyone forgive each other and let go of thousands of years of history, this would be the biggest mile stone in bringing long term peace to the middle east. Some form of tolerance where everyone can cohabitate without conflict based on what you are.

Another issue though is trust. You take a man in the middle east, give him power, then he becomes the newest dictator. Look at Assad in Syria, or Saddam in Iraq, or the previous president in Iran. All of them corrupt starfishs. Look at Iraq which now has many corrupt and incompetent politicians. How can you trust them? I'm of seeing stuff like in this whole video happen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja5Q75hf6QI

Creating a Kurdish state is promising, However we risk Turkey leaving NATO. There is also no guarantee of Kurds and Iraqis getting along, nor Christian and Muslim populations. Plus this could lead to more crazies rising up because some Christians have taking over part of their holy land.
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The problem has roots in the imperialism of Europe. I say let the middle east rearrange itself to what seems right and deal with the consequences afterwards.

saddam was actually doing great keeping out all the stuffty little terrorist groups.
before our airforce took it out, iraq had the largest army on earth, more tanks then russia even. and they were doing fine.
Wait are you honestly loving serious? The Iraqi tanks we're Russian designed and cheaply made in Iraq. And they were quite possibly the stufftiest tanks in service with any military at the time. More tanks than Russia? Do you ever research things before you spew stuff out of your dumbass mouth?

The problem has roots in the imperialism of Europe. I say let the middle east rearrange itself to what seems right and deal with the consequences afterwards.
Some imperialism, but even before that in the Ottoman empire because you had events like the Arab revolt in 1916.

Heck even the problem of Israel goes back to the Romans and World Wars. I would say the Iranian uprising was the result of European imperialism.

saddam was actually doing great keeping out all the stuffty little terrorist groups.
before our airforce took it out, iraq had the largest army on earth, more tanks then russia even. and they were doing fine.
So much incorrect here. The Iraqi army was the 4th largest in the world at the time. Yugoslavia was the 3rd largest. 1st and 2nd was between the US and USSR.

Most of the Iraqi arsenal consisted of a few horribly downgraded T-72M, towns of outdated T-62s, and T-55s from the USSR, and some Type-59s from China.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2015, 08:26:25 PM by Harm94 »

Wait are you honestly loving serious? The Iraqi tanks we're Russian designed and cheaply made in Iraq. And they were quite possibly the stufftiest tanks in service with any military at the time. More tanks than Russia? Do you ever research things before you spew stuff out of your dumbass mouth?

and yet they were still the greatest army on earth.

i never said the hardware was great. he was capable of taking the entire middle east, the US were the ones holding him at bay for last 30 years.

Can we just nuke them already?

they hide themselves among the people, so you'd be slaughtering innocents as well lol.

yeah im not going to read all of that
pm me or something if you care enough for me to read it
ill be in the other topics

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also im not hostile if you think my swears are srs
i like all of you still

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yeah im not going to read all of that
pm me or something if you care enough for me to read it
ill be in the other topics

Edit:

also im not hostile if you think my swears are srs
i like all of you still

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