Jeremy Clarkson bye bye from topgear

[Nonnel]

catch a tiger by the toe is far cuter and not tribal at all

if you have to choose between saying "tiger" (or whatever word you've learned) and the n word, and you choose the n word, you're being tribal

but it's just how he learned it
it doesn't matter

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[Tokthree]

but it's just how he learned it
it doesn't matter

This is true. He's about as old as my Dad and that's how my Dad learnt it when he was a child. He didn't choose to say it, it was a slip of the tongue

[Zack]

As far as reciting the nursery rhyme, I don't think Jeremy is in the wrong. It was how the rhyme went.

While that word might not be acceptable in public by today's standards, choosing to bury the past of that nursery rhyme and cover it up in a "family friendly (TM)" version, while it might be the right thing to do, still rubs me the wrong way.

[Mr Man]

Honestly, I kinda expected this. Jeremy has gotten in trouble all the time, and apparently is pretty unpleasant to work with. My dad actually ran into him once, said he was a complete grouch.

[Foxscotch]

but it's just how he learned it
it doesn't matter

everything is learned. including racism. that doesn't excuse it

While that word might not be acceptable in public by today's standards, choosing to bury the past of that nursery rhyme and cover it up in a "family friendly (TM)" version, while it might be the right thing to do, still rubs me the wrong way.

it's a nursery rhyme. its past doesn't matter in the slightest amount

[Nonnel]

everything is learned. including racism. that doesn't excuse it

he was reciting it under his breath
he's just going to do it as he remembers it
it literally does not matter

[Badger]

wait if he was reciting it under his breath why does it matter yea lol

its not like he's saying it out loud purposefully

[Tokthree]

everything is learned. including racism. that doesn't excuse it

So, what is it that excuses you judging someone like this based on information that you were never meant to have? The only reason you know that Clarkson accidentally recited the rhyme as it originally was, as he learnt it when he was child, is because someone released footage that nobody was ever supposed to see because everyone recognized that it was not acceptable behavior. It's not like this happened in an episode of Top Gear that was aired, this was cut footage

[Harm94]

everything is learned. including racism.

True true, but all races and nations can be tribal.

Did you know that the Japanese tried to wipe out the Chinese in WW2 and still deny most of their war crimes to this day.
Most Arabs hate the Kurds for practicing Christianity, under Sadam's regime they were persecuted.
In Sudan during the War in Darfur, many acts of genocide were commited by Arab forces against southern Africans.

[Ipquarx]

So, what is it that excuses you judging someone like this based on information that you were never meant to have? It's not like this happened in an episode of Top Gear that was aired; this was cut footage

This isn't a court of law; you can't dismiss evidence because it wasn't obtained through 100% legitimate means

[espio100]

Atleast he didn't die

[Tokthree]

This isn't a court of law; you can't dismiss evidence because it wasn't obtained through 100% legitimate means

This is the equivalent to forcing someone to recite what they said because you didn't hear it after they realised it was wrong and said "it's nothing". It is completely unfair judgement to pass on any individual and is denying them the right to keep their mistakes secret even after they've recognised that they're mistakes

[Ipquarx]

This is the equivalent to forcing someone to recite what they said because you didn't hear it after they realised it was wrong and said "it's nothing". It is completely unfair judgement to pass on any individual and is denying them the right to keep their mistakes secret even after they've recognised that they're mistakes

If he recognized that it's a mistake that's different, but your other post failed to mention that. If he didn't recognize that it was a mistake then it's totally justifiable.

[Tokthree]

If he recognized that it's a mistake that's different, but your other post failed to mention that. If he didn't recognize that it was a mistake then it's totally justifiable.

The fact that the footage was discarded should be enough of a demonstration that he realised it was a mistake. Also; excuse me for assuming that anyone passing such judgement on ANY individual would have actually done any research whatsoever on who they're judging and what they're judging them for. But I realise now that anyone who was judging him on this matter based on anything besides sensationalist headlines and hearsay would know that not only was the footage scrapped long before the show was aired (not even during editing; it was scrapped pretty much the MOMENT after he said it) but Clarkson actually released an apology that he recorded using his own camera in his own time.

[sir dooble]

absolutely right. it's entirely black people's fault that they're offended by racism. what nerve they have

It is their fault if they find racism where there isn't any. They can choose to have a chip on their shoulder regarding innocent things, or they can choose to ignore a word.
Banning language just because it's been misused is utterly wrong.

The dog is literally named because he had black fur. In the same way you might name a dog blackie, or ginger, or cream.


If you go to a film about WWII, where the main plot is a squadron blowing up dams and killing 1600 people in drownings, and you find the name of a dead 70 year old dog to be the most offensive thing, then you're a loving idiot. Might as well censor the entire film if a name is so offensive.