Nonnel's Nation RP: Earth 2077 - [AMERICA, THE BEAUTIFUL!]

[Maxwell.]

You'll only make the situation worse - I don't mean that personally, but adding more violence is never a good idea.

but he's illegally holding france against a UN vote, he's a threat to world peace
think about it, the UN a was made for international agreements to be made and it was internationally agreed to release france, he's not following that vote

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[Zoltan]

itt: europe stirs stuff, attempts to stop stirring stuff, only ends up stirring even more stuff

[Doughboy]

There was peace everyone else than France, and by intervening he drew many other countries into a war. In the long run, the world would have been more stable if he stayed out of it.

pretty sure that NATO was not in peace knowing that france was being illegally held by germany

[TristanLuigi]

but he's illegally holding france against a UN vote, he's a threat to world peace
think about it, the UN a was made for international agreements to be made and it was internationally agreed to release france, he's not following that vote

he's not a threat to world peace, he's a threat to France's peace
he's not following the vote because he's not compelled to. in real life the UN has no power to actually enforce anything; they can make laws, sure, but you don't get invaded for breaking them.

i'm not saying that germany's violence against france was just, because it wasn't. but venezuela's violence against germany isn't just either, especially because they're across an ocean and germany was in no way a direct threat to them.

pretty sure that NATO was not in peace knowing that france was being illegally held by germany

alliances can't have PTSD


basically venezuela's response to violence was to add more violence
PERFECT

[Swat 3]

Might I add that the ASA and NATO have diplomatic ties because of one of its members are dual-aligned.
Tristan, you do notice that if we never did this, peace in France was to never occur. The only reason this escalated is because people don't understand that we aren't seeking to attack Germany's homeland. We are removing them from France to satisfy the UN. The UN does not have an official military power behind it with the removal of the UNSC, hence why we had to take action in the interest of the UN.

We tried to take the diplomatic route and asked Germany to follow the vote, but they didn't.
Stop trying to make us the bad guys.

basically venezuela's response to violence was to add more violence
PERFECT

Our answer to Germany not following the UN was violence because Germany refused peace.
We had no other way.

Nonnel, can you come in here and tell Tristan that Toulon/France and the ASA have diplomatic ties to make Ruskie happy?

[Doughboy]

have you never heard of UN peacekeeping tristan

[TristanLuigi]

i'm not saying germany was just and that they're the good guy and you're the bad guy, it's that neither of you are being good because you're both using violence. i'm aware you guys have diplomatic ties, but that doesn't mean you have to invade [france/germany]. i have german diplomatic ties, but i'm not going to help him illegally occupy territory.

basically, both of you need to stop fighting. germany needs to get out of france (as SASA and NATO see it) and you need to get out of germany (as the IP and SEADA see it)
but the appropriate response to someone not following a UN treaty is not to invade them, even if the UN can't do anything on their own.

have you never heard of UN peacekeeping tristan NSSR

yeah and it's stupid

[Maxwell.]

yeah and it's stupid

no it's not

also tristan are you fighting at all in this war or are you just trying to stop it

[TristanLuigi]

no it's not

also tristan are you fighting at all in this war or are you just trying to stop it

just trying to stop it
i'm not bothering to argue against germany because it's well established that they need to GTFO of France

[Swat 3]

i'm not bothering to argue against germany because it's well established that they need to GTFO of France

but they won't????

if they pull out right now this can all stop

[Nonnel]

with all of them concentrated within a single region, the swedish-supplied multipurpose long-range artillery guns have no problem wiping some ships in the royal navy yeahhh, along with a few dozen planes thanks to the thermobaric and cluster warheads and the fact that the channel is probably completely pre-sighted artillery zones

right lol

the countries of the world are following through to see that france remains a sovereign state because no one in german france or real france or the rest of the world wants france to be owned by germany. it is thus the job of the democracy-loving united nations to bring back power to the french, whose land is being unrightfully clenched by a power-hungry, peace-threatening germany. that's literally what the UN peacekeepers exist for.

[TristanLuigi]

but they won't????

not your problem, not my problem, not anyone's problem but NATO and the IP

i agree they need to pull out but adding more bloodshed is not the way to do it, even if it follows a UN vote

right lol

the countries of the world are following through to see that france remains a sovereign state because no one in german france or real france or the rest of the world wants france to be owned by germany. it is thus the job of the democracy-loving united nations to bring back power to the french, whose land is being unrightfully clenched by a power-hungry, peace-threatening germany. that's literally what the UN peacekeepers exist for.

(i know what their reasoning is, the NSSR just disagrees)

[Swat 3]

not your problem, not my problem, not anyone's problem but NATO and the IP

i agree they need to pull out but adding more bloodshed is not the way to do it, even if it follows a UN vote
(i know what their reasoning is, the NSSR just disagrees)

it is the ONLY way to do it, nssr

it is my problem
its the world's problem

[Operator¹]

good thing everybody sent in their regular military instead of donning the U.N. peacekeeper logos

[TristanLuigi]

it is the ONLY way to do it, nssr

it is my problem
its the world's problem

or we could have tried more diplomacy
i don't think there was a real attempt to negotiate, it was just "you're not listening to some numbers, prepare to die"
i mean there was a period of threats before actual war broke out, but that's not diplomacy, it's coercion


how about this
everything east of paris is german
everything west of paris (and the Toulon area) is french