Archipelago – Late Summer, 1827 – New Moderator Position Open

[SWAT One]

What did you expect by launching all-out rigorous wars of attrition and maximizing military efforts by drafting tens of thousands of men?

Besides, NPCs appear by discovery or by formal foundation and action for or against nations.

Also if this helps you in future decisions, the part of the world pictured is what could be recognized as the first world.  When the eighth player nation joins, the rest of the world will be open to colonization.  This rest of the world, also, is less civilized, so getting control of it will be easier.

Additionally, since these nations are so slapped together out of the blue, one might expect less-than-standard military organization, however, since they exist in the first world, and technology that is good, but not superior to already organized nations.


The three confederations begin to mobilize men toward the front, beginning with simple infantry and some cannons.  The Noaste Navy begins patrolling its waters in order to safeguard port towns.

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[CypherX]

What did you expect by launching all-out rigorous wars of attrition and maximizing military efforts by drafting tens of thousands of men?

I didn't expect three, same size nations to appear out of the blue at my borders, as if I have never noticed them in my living here. I haven't launched any "rigorous attrition wars", I relocated a peaceful tribe.

Besides, NPCs appear by discovery or by formal foundation and action for or against nations.

So you're saying that I never noticed two nations with a combined population of sixteen million people, and they are immediately hostile to me? What?
So bickering tribes suddenly organized into two nations with the sole intent of killing UEK and myself.

This is ridiculous. You never even hinted that there were other civilizations our size were anywhere near our current nations.

[SWAT One]

I didn't expect three, same size nations to appear out of the blue at my borders, as if I have never noticed them in my living here. I haven't launched any "rigorous attrition wars", I relocated a peaceful tribe.

refuse to give up their land

A contingent of troops under General Von Blecher, numbering 2,500 infantry, 600 cavalry and 8 artillery pieces, are dispatched to remove the natives from the land by any means necessary.

• You're an ally of someone who just claimed large portions of land militarily.  The UEK gained about 40% more land than it originally was in 1800.
• By the above quote, it shows that the natives would refuse to give up the land, and although mostly peaceful,the natives were met by a force much too large for peaceful relocation.  This news would have spread to nearby lords of the land and would have them be concerned, since they would be in the line of a hostile advancing army.

So you're saying that I never noticed two nations with a combined population of sixteen million people, and they are immediately hostile to me? What?
So bickering tribes suddenly organized into two nations with the sole intent of killing UEK and myself.
Tribes that were suddenly startled by 100 miles (500 miles in some cases) of advance in two years and overkill tactics united.  They want their land back, and temporary peace treaties until reparations can be made.  These nations are more or less temporary alliances, though.

This is ridiculous. You never even hinted that there were other civilizations our size were anywhere near our current nations.
No, there weren't civilizations even close to your size besides player nations, and aggressive actions helped to unite many small noble estates that could be conquered easily.  Now that they stand together, they'd be harder to defeat.

Rigorous Naval training occurs in Burellis.  Burellis offers to aid in the war, given that it have a year to prepare.

[Mr. Hurricane]

Surveyors discover that a sovereign nation has claimed part of the mountains. Vlast lays claims to the mountains that are not claimed by the Confederation or the UEK. Within a couple days regional command orders northwest and northeast operations halted. The claims continue on the Western front.

The Kiska Doctrine is adopted. It is an order that outlines that limited self rule will be allowed to people in claimed areas. Those who continue to resist are cordoned for now.

Foreign observers have noted military actions around the globe. None of these notes have reached the government yet.

[SWAT One]

The Obalei Confederation says that Vlast be best to keep its people away from its land, simply annoyed at the presence of more outsiders.

Also noticed that I forgot to re-title Vlast.  Will fix.

[Juncoph]

so wait

by banding together these tribes magically have muskets?

well then i guess ill band together with vlast and kyrev to get heavy tanks

[SWAT One]

so wait

by banding together these tribes magically have muskets?

well then i guess ill band together with vlast and kyrev to get heavy tanks

Breaking news from page 1:

A note that there are natives out there, and if they are closer to civilization, are more likely to have more modern technology, but still feel tied to the land.  In faraway lands, there are micro-empires, but we haven't discovered them yet.  (When we have 8 nations, the map will expand.

[Juncoph]

you can't punish players based off of unwritten rules

[CypherX]

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Rigorous Naval training occurs in Burellis.  Burellis offers to aid in the war, given that it have a year to prepare.

They refused to give up their land to civilians. The army moved in and relocated them peacefully. Probably should have mentioned that it was just a show of force, but I had thought it was obvious.

How would they know we are allies? It's a slip of paper between us two. We haven't acted on it at all. I did no overkill. If anything, YOU should get three nations at your door after you wiped out a region.

Doesn't even matter.


The 20,000 men are trained and added to the military. All ground armies are recalled to assess the situation. Pro-war propaganda is heavily spread while conscription is put in place. The Kyrevan Royal Navy moves to combat Noastadt's navy while the army organizes near the western border.

[Juncoph]

Conscription enters the fray (albeit for necessary farmers) in the UEK and 100 Topsmen are given the title of Count. All conscripts are considered light infantry.

50,000 already existing light infantry become Soldats, and 30,000 already existing Soldats become Topsmen.



600 artillery pieces are sent west along with 1,000 topsmen and 2/5 of the country's Soldats, plus 1/5 of the country's conscripts. This force, led by 128 Counts, is now known as the Crusader's Campaign.

Another 2/5 of the country's Soldats, along with 3/5 of the country's conscripts, bolstered by all Topsmen and 300 Counts head east to help their ally crush the new barbarian alliance. This is now known as the Prophet's Campaign.

[CypherX]

Alliance request sent to Vlast; all lands of Obalei are offered if they help us fight the aggressive natives, noting that if he doesn't the people he relocates will likely do the same.

[Mr. Hurricane]

Regional command orders the withdrawal of military personnel from the area around the mountains, the civilian surveyors remain. The claims still stand, however.

Several regiments are activated and moved to a Federal District in the north.

Many prominent scientists, capitalists, philosophers, economic theorists, and political theorists establish the Vlast National University in Soyuzagorsk. It functions to bring together the most brilliant minds to further the Vlastcovites' knowledge of the world. A campus has been planned.

Kremlin Czeslaw and Kremlin Alexei are planned.

The political alliance notice is on its way.

[SWAT One]

you can't punish players based off of unwritten rules

How do you expect native peoples to react when faced with invasion of land they hold dear?

They refused to give up their land to civilians. The army moved in and relocated them peacefully. Probably should have mentioned that it was just a show of force, but I had thought it was obvious.
Regardless, a show of force indicates the same intention.  It says "my way or the highway," and all it does is say "we'll still let you leave alive, but we will not tolerate resistance" as indicated by the phrase "through any means necessary."

How would they know we are allies? It's a slip of paper between us two. We haven't acted on it at all. I did no overkill. If anything, YOU should get three nations at your door after you wiped out a region.
1.  After trade routes that once travelled peacefully through their regions and through expansion, would they not notice that you are both on good terms, expanding, and your militaries show no ill toward each other.  This would spell bad news for any populace caught in the middle of the two.

2.  Please.  I didn't even wipe them out.

The Burellian forces manage to subdue the hostile natives to the southwest, forcing their surrender as opposed to their annihilation, and claim their lands.  They are allowed to work their lands as they have for hundreds and thousands of years, but must owe their allegiance to Burellis.

I believe that my terms with the locals, which need I remind you fired the first shot, were more than reasonable.

The 20,000 men are trained and added to the military. All ground armies are recalled to assess the situation. Pro-war propaganda is heavily spread while conscription is put in place. The Kyrevan Royal Navy moves to combat Noastadt's navy while the army organizes near the western border.
The opposing armies wait overnight, within view of each other atop two opposing hills.

The Kyrevan Navy charges headlong into a line of paroling ships, catching them by surprise and decimating them before they can send for help.  Intelligence indicates that the next patrol will arrive at the navy's current location in an hour from the south.

Conscription enters the fray (albeit for necessary farmers) in the UEK and 100 Topsmen are given the title of Count. All conscripts are considered light infantry.

50,000 already existing light infantry become Soldats, and 30,000 already existing Soldats become Topsmen.



600 artillery pieces are sent west along with 1,000 topsmen and 2/5 of the country's Soldats, plus 1/5 of the country's conscripts. This force, led by 128 Counts, is now known as the Crusader's Campaign.

Another 2/5 of the country's Soldats, along with 3/5 of the country's conscripts, bolstered by all Topsmen and 300 Counts head east to help their ally crush the new barbarian alliance. This is now known as the Prophet's Campaign.

The Obalei begin to rapidly cripple at the first advance of the Elmic Advance, not expecting so manny cannons in the first battle, however, the Obalei forces begin to engage in guerilla warfare, and also send pillars of troops forward, some in the middle carrying muskets, and others carrying heavy shields to block fire while musketmen reload.  This slows the briefly rapid Elmic campaign.

Regional command orders the withdrawal of military personnel from the area around the mountains, the civilian surveyors remain. The claims still stand, however.

The Obalei are pacified with this response, but would rather that the claims be nullified.


Burellian Naval ships begin scouting the area to the north just to see the conflict, and to hold positions in case action is necessary to protect an ally.

[Mr. Hurricane]

In a confederation, a weak central governing body derives its limited power from its member states. The member states themselves hold more power within that sovereignty than the central government. Divide, and conquer.

[CypherX]

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There are still things that annoy me, but you've fleshed out your reasons and they make more sense. Thanks.


The Kyrevan Navy braces and moves south to engage the next patrol.

The army sets up its available cannons, nearly 3/4s of the nation's artillery, on the hill. Cavalry are prepared on the flanks in secret and the infantry are prepared to move out.