Pizzaria in my town raises $842k over gays rights debacle, reopens to full house

[The Resonte!]

i want my pizza with... extra sausage

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[joe411]

Found on the front page of Reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/nottheonion/comments/31rdai/sorry_cancer_patients_and_boston_marathon_victims/

[Ipquarx]

seems like the angry people who are against the pizzeria have that same mindset too huh?

Indeed, and the people threatening to burn down the place definitely are equally in the wrong that the pizzaria was, but the point is that fighting against equality is one of the major things holding us as a civilization back, the thing causing half the wars raging on now, and we need to try and fight against the prejudice mindset as much as we can, for the good of EVERYONE.

[XR-7]

Here guys, read this.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/04/06/gay-woman-who-donated-20-to-christian-owned-indiana-pizzeria-reveals-why-she-took-bold-stand/

[tnatsissA]

Here guys, read this.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/04/06/gay-woman-who-donated-20-to-christian-owned-indiana-pizzeria-reveals-why-she-took-bold-stand/

Oh no.

Here comes the tumblr stuffstorm.

[SeventhSandwich]

it would be segregation if a town forces gay people out of their homes/town and says "we dont hate gays we just dont want you here", but im pretty sure a pizzeria isnt forcing gay people out of their homes though, they just dont want to cater a wedding so its far from segregation.

Okay, so what happens when a gay couple in a small town is prevented from buying from any of the businesses? Are they gonna live off the land, or are they going to have to move?

[Kearn]

yes because gay people can order things only when they are asking for wedding supplies

even if it got to that scale it would be a compelling government interest at that point to restrict religious freedoms in the least intrusive manner possible

[SeventhSandwich]

yes because gay people can order things only when they are asking for wedding supplies

Where in the law does it say that only wedding suppliers can discriminate? There's nowhere in the law that would prevent an entire community full of bigots (which trust me, exist in many parts of the US) from using it to force out people whose relationship they find objectionable.

even if it got to that scale it would be a compelling government interest at that point to restrict religious freedoms in the least intrusive manner possible

I don't know if you're trying to quote the law or not, but 'compelling governmental interest' is legal speak for constitutional amendment. The rights of gays not to be discriminated against has never been put into the Constitution (unfortunately).

[Kearn]

if it somehow got to this insane and impossible theoretical situation you've come up with (which has never occured in the other 20 states that have RFRA laws) the government at that point would have an interest in protecting basic access to non-public services for its citizens

[SeventhSandwich]

insane and impossible theoretical situation you've come up with

But I've literally proven that it's possible given that the law doesn't define what scope of discrimination is permitted.

(which has never occured in the other 20 states that have RFRA laws)

Of course you'd know that considering that communities are readily willing to report on their own acts of discrimination and prejudice. It would have been on the news!

the government at that point would have an interest in protecting basic access to non-public services for its citizens

If the government had an interest in protecting basic access to non-public services, it wouldn't have passed the damn law to begin with!

[Kearn]

Of course you'd know that considering that communities are readily willing to report on their own acts of discrimination and prejudice. It would have been on the news!

yeah all those gay people filing thousands of thousands of lawsuits and starving to death in the streets for years because mcdonalds wont sell them a cheeseburger sure are a tragedy

But I've literally proven that it's possible given that the law doesn't define what scope of discrimination is permitted.

well it's possible that someone could go buy a legal gun and murder 742 gay people tomorrow but the likelihood of that is also absurdly low

[SeventhSandwich]

yeah all those gay people filing thousands of thousands of lawsuits and starving to death in the streets for years because mcdonalds wont sell them a cheeseburger sure are a tragedy

I don't know whether you're joking or not, but discrimination can exist even if there's no lawsuits. I guarantee you never read anything about the racial tensions in Ferguson before some kid's death got it on the news. It must of never existed until then?

well it's possible that someone could go buy a legal gun and murder 742 gay people tomorrow but the likelihood of that is also absurdly low

Owning a gun is a constitutionally protected right, and people buy guns for reasons other than to murder gay people. Name a scenario that isn't discrimination where someone kicks out a gay person out of their business for 'religious differences,' and then maybe they can amend the law to include it.

[·::Kishgal::·]

people buy guns for reasons other than to murder gay people

heh.... i'd like to see your source on that,,,,,

[Kearn]

I don't know whether you're joking or not, but discrimination can exist even if there's no lawsuits.

well then whats the point of complaining about how awful the law is when it has no bearing on whether or not they file lawsuits

Owning a gun is a constitutionally protected right

yeah well so are religious beliefs

people buy guns for reasons other than to murder gay people

people have religious beliefs for reasons other than getting themselves into lawsuits over wedding catering

Name a scenario that isn't discrimination where someone kicks out a gay person out of their business for 'religious differences,' and then maybe they can amend the law to include it.

what is it with you and assuming people are going to use this law to discriminate for discrimination's sake? people will do that regardless of the legality of it (which pretty much doesnt exist in this context unless they somehow manage to prove that being required to serve substantially burdens their religious beliefs which has never successfully been done before)

[SeventhSandwich]

well then whats the point of complaining about how awful the law is when it has no bearing on whether or not they file lawsuits

What the hell are you even on about now? If this stays law, it won't matter whether homoloveuals sue or not because the discrimination will be legal.

people have religious beliefs for reasons other than getting themselves into lawsuits over wedding catering

And people can have religious beliefs. That's not what we're talking about here. I'm talking about using those religious beliefs to discriminate, and so I'll ask again: Can you name one example of a religious person kicking a homoloveual out of their business on the grounds of 'religious beliefs' that does not qualify as discrimination?

what is it with you and assuming people are going to use this law to discriminate for discrimination's sake? people will do that regardless of the legality of it

Okay, so racism against black people still exists. Why don't we just get rid of the Civil Rights Act considering that people still violate it even though it's part of our law?

yeah well so are religious beliefs

No, religious beliefs are not part of the constitution. The right to freely express your religious beliefs is part of the constitution. However, your expression of those religious beliefs can't step on other people's rights. Furthermore, refusing to serve gay people isn't even part of any Christian scripture. What you're defending here is essentially a silly, religious 'loophole' permitting discrimination on the grounds of something that Christian religious belief doesn't even call for. I'm sure even the lawmakers know this is bullstuff, but they don't care if it means they don't have to see two men on a date when they go out to dinner.

Let's be real here: If you're a Christian (which I'll assume you are for the sake of this), do you feel like your right to express your religion is significantly burdened by having to deal with gay people on an occasional basis? Does the slightest presence of something you find immoral impinge on your beliefs so severely that you feel the need to make them feel like second-class citizens undeserving of the same services as everyone else in society? I'll take a straight yes or no answer and leave it at that.