Author Topic: 11 California deputees beat fleeing suspect - kicked 17 times, punched 37 times  (Read 2185 times)



not really

that's just a way to make the government come down onto you even harder and harsher
so explain the American Revolution

I killed my neighbor and shot up a mall, but the cop punched me! Wtf!!!??!

I killed my neighbor and shot up a mall, but the cop punched me! Wtf!!!??!
you're not the brightest, are you

what im interested in is who the forget is always there to count how many times he was hit and kicked
Usually the footage is used to figure that out.

so what did this guy actually do?
also what kind of crazy situation do you have to be in to the goddamn police chasing you down while you're trying to make your getaway on a horse

so what did this guy actually do?
apparently he stole the horse he was trying to get away on

you're not the brightest, are you
I'm saying, the dumbass shouldn't of fled the scene and he wouldn't of had to take the kicks and punches. He brought it upon himself and deserved the consequences. The cops are doing their job.

I'm saying, the dumbass shouldn't of fled the scene and he wouldn't of had to take the kicks and punches. He brought it upon himself and deserved the consequences. The cops are doing their job.
He stole a horse and surrendered. Even layed himself down and put his hands behind his back. Beating down a surrendering, cooperative man is not justifiable.

so explain the American Revolution
for one other countries actually got involved in it, one being france which was a good-sized world power and already had bad relations with britain. also the main army was overseas and they didn't really have the best ships then, so during the revolutionary war there wasn't much recruitment for the british in the america. also, there was the thirteen colonies


so i think if people do actually go out and start burning stuff down n revolting, i don't think the US will be so willing to back down that early.

Honestly, the only part of police militarization i disagree with entirely is the apc's and stuff.

Honestly, the only part of police militarization i disagree with entirely is the apc's and stuff.
Yeah, they should have to carry their M2 Brownings and M16s themselves

A rifle is better than a shotgun for multiple reasons:
Contrary to popular belief shotguns do penetrate walls if they are constructed of soft material, plus if you are using buck shot that increases the risk of hitting more than just your target. With a single projectile from a small 5.56 rifle you are more likely to hit a target with less risk of over entry than man targets with over entry.

You also have a limited selection of projectiles which include buck shot, slugs, and non lethal ammunition. Non lethal ammunition is good if your target isn't shouldn't at you and is in the open, not so good if they are behind cover with a weapon. Slugs were used when rifles weren't all that common, but a shotgun isn't the best for a long range engagement with a gunman. However a shotgun is like a small cannon, that slug or buckshot fired up close is going to do some ultra nasty damage(trust me unless you want to google what a shotgun wound looks like up close). Projectiles in 5.56 and .223 are small are less likely to severely damage a persons organs, limbs, and flesh. Also remember that all projectiles are lethal.

Police are peace keepers and if lethal force is needed, you don't have to kill the person. If they get shot and fall over motionless, that's when you stop using force. If they are alive, you don't execute them. Instead they are has to be secure for EMTs to arrive and you must be there to record any dyeing words. If they died, well too bad. They shouldn't have committed the crime in the first place or thought about doing the thing that would end up getting them killed.

APCs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er7gzj0BbSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3B7iWE1PrA
Well good luck getting swat into an area where the badguys can take pop shots at you. Some Departments need them like those with large departments, high violence, lots of gangs. There are also plenty of departments that don't like your small rural towns and areas with low violence.

b-b-b-but muh sensationalism! the new york times told me militarisation is bad!