Australia releases "no jab, no pay" policy

[Frequency]

While I'm 100% for vaccinating children, this is a total violation of the freedom of parents. But then again, I'm also against things like seat belt laws because why the forget should you have to wear a seat belt if you don't want to? It's your own life you're endangering.

if warning labels protecting people from obvious dangers were removed, all of the stupid people would die

i think that'd be a good thing

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if warning labels protecting people from obvious dangers were removed, all of the stupid people would die

i think that'd be a good thing

I support infoming people of risks to things, but some things are out of hand. Idk about other states but here in CA any place that serves food needs to display a notice saying that chemicals known to cause cancer may be present. It's literally at every place that sells food. What is it informing you of? That you have to cook your own meals if you don't want cancer?

[Harm94]

What really pisses me are the people who made it against the rules to eat peanut and peanut butter in school. Like the sight and smell of peanut based products is going to trigger a horrible life threatening allergic reaction.

[Frequency]

What really pisses me are the people who made it against the rules to eat peanut and peanut butter in school. Like the sight and smell of peanut based products is going to trigger a horrible life threatening allergic reaction.

what

[Headcrab Zombie]

While I'm 100% for vaccinating children, this is a total violation of the freedom of parents. But then again, I'm also against things like seat belt laws because why the forget should you have to wear a seat belt if you don't want to? It's your own life you're endangering.

if warning labels protecting people from obvious dangers were removed, all of the stupid people would die

i think that'd be a good thing

The difference here is it's  not themselves the parents are putting in danger, it's their children and other people around them.
Also it's not like they're fining them. They're simply reducing the amount of childcare welfare benefits they receive; money that's supposed to go to child care. If someone isn't going to take care of their children, why should the government be giving them money for child care?

What really pisses me are the people who made it against the rules to eat peanut and peanut butter in school.

Where is this a thing? I never encountered this in my school; infact there were several times in my cooking classes where we made things with peanuts

[SeventhSandwich]

I have the right to raise my child however I damn well please and you will not be the decider in my parental decisions

You don't have the right to voluntarily allow your child to contract diseases and spread them to other people's children. The right for you to swing your fist ends at the tip of my nose, bitch.

While I'm 100% for vaccinating children, this is a total violation of the freedom of parents. But then again, I'm also against things like seat belt laws because why the forget should you have to wear a seat belt if you don't want to? It's your own life you're endangering.

The difference between this and seatbelt laws is that violating a seatbelt law is only harmful to the idiot who disobeys it. If your kid is unvaccinated and gets sick, it's entirely possible he'll spread it to someone who couldn't get vaccinated because of legitimate health reasons. Likewise, I'd bet that 99% of the denied vaccines were turned away by parents and not the children, which counts as child abuse in my book if they get sick and suffer some kind of life-altering complication.

[Bisjac]

That is so stupid. They mine as well revoke benefits from people who don't get their teeth cleaned regularly while they're at it.

well do the tax payers clean the teeth for them? or do they do it themselves

XD

[Harm94]

Where is this a thing? I never encountered this in my school; infact there were several times in my cooking classes where we made things with peanuts

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/health-and-medicine/article2578315.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/09/23/nyregion/nothing-s-safe-some-schools-ban-peanut-butter-as-allergy-threat.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/09/03/are-peanuts-banned-at-your-childs-school-these-kids-have-the-most-adorable-solution/

From what I know schools are starting to eliminate peanut butter from their menus, but from what I have been told some took it a step further to prevent everyone from bringing nut based products. I remember this school assembly on bullying, apparently they claim that there are kids who allergies that can be triggered just by looking out or smelling peanut butter. To me it just sounds like an overreaction between parents, the schools, and the medias. Also apparently there are bullies in the schools now trying to trigger peoples allergies.

It's also a stupid ban because peanuts are in almost everything. For example at chocolate factories, the conveyor belts used for cocoa beans are also used for almonds and peanuts. Hence the warning label: may contain traces of nuts. Peanut oil is used in cooking as substitute to vegetable and canola oil.

[Col. Derontchi]

10/11 idea

2/10 name

thought it was saying "no job, no pay"

[John Freeman]

Where is this a thing? I never encountered this in my school; infact there were several times in my cooking classes where we made things with peanuts

Back in elementary school (and maybe middle school I forget) there were "peanut tables" where kids with peanut allergies would go sit

[Headcrab Zombie]

Yeah "allergies triggered by sight" is definitely bs
But by smell might be legit if the allergy is severe and the smell agreeing enough, idk.

Back in my school there wasn't any peanut product served by the cafeteria, but that was it as far as "no peanuts" went

[IkeTheGeneric]

Spiritual reasons.

You can't spirit away smallpox...

But you can get a harmless immunization. If you're concerned about it being not being natural, I've got a couple choice things to say about you using a computer and the internet to complain about how "natural" something is.

[XR-7]

While I'm 100% for vaccinating children, this is a total violation of the freedom of parents. But then again, I'm also against things like seat belt laws because why the forget should you have to wear a seat belt if you don't want to? It's your own life you're endangering.

Ehhh not wearing seatbelts can present other risks. I get what you're saying though. I.e. you could get ejected from the vehicle and land in moving traffic causing a gruesome danger to other motorists. Being ejected from the vehicle usually means busting out the windshield as well, presenting a safety hazard with broken glass.

It could be compared to Self Delete too, which is usually intercepted by police and psychological examiners in the case of a failed attempt. Even though it is your life that is ending, you will likely cause insurmountable grief to friends and family regardless of whether you think you will or not. A lot of money will also be spent on investigations and someone will also have to eventually clean up the mess you left.

But I agree that certain things (including this Australian law) should have the freedom option vaccinating children. Yes, it is not smart and quite irresponsible to prevent them from receiving any vaccinations, but most people get at least some of them.

[·::Kishgal::·]

While I'm 100% for vaccinating children, this is a total violation of the freedom of parents. But then again, I'm also against things like seat belt laws because why the forget should you have to wear a seat belt if you don't want to? It's your own life you're endangering.

It's their children's lives, not theirs.

[Kimon²]

i could be wrong but i think there's still a chance of vaccinated children getting preventable diseases if they get it from kids who were not vaccinated.