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Author Topic: Australia releases "no jab, no pay" policy  (Read 9359 times)

i can kill whoever i want, when i want.

It's not like not vaccinating a child is giving it a death sentence, it's just that they're more susceptible to preventable viruses.

It's not like not vaccinating a child is giving it a death sentence, it's just that they're more susceptible to preventable viruses.
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My school is making us take vaccines before 7th grade.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2015, 06:24:42 PM by Mr Queeba »

My school is making us take vaccines before 7th grade,
Sounds about right, next will be when you're 15, polio tetstar fish and measles booster i think


What I'm curious about is why, the majority of you being from "Not Australia" are so caught up in this.

This country doesn't have a large proportion of anti-vaxxers, last I checked. They're not even a vocal minority. The current Liberal Government is aiming to garner sympathy points anywhere they can because they haven't done a single good thing while in power. And most Australians either don't care, or dislike it because it stops people having a choice (even though most go on to say "I still would get my kids vax'd though).

It affects barely anything. I'm amazed the Government is still paying the child support costs.

it stops people having a choice
This is a bad argument in my mind for reasons other than "that's not a choice you should make"
The money they're losing isn't a direct fine, it's reduced welfare payments and it looks like also childcare-related tax credits; IMO you don't deserve money that's given to take care of children if you're not using it to take care of children

My school is making us take vaccines before 7th grade,

I know I had to get one or two to enroll at my high school as a sophomore. I don't really remember what I got though. I think I got a meningitis one, but that may have been earlier at around 13 years old. I know my DTaP (or TDaP, don't remember which is for my age) wasn't showing up on my shot record though, and I could've sworn to God I had gotten it because it was the last shot I remember sobbing about. I ended up not getting it again, either because of my persistence or my parents got the record from somewhere.

If your unvaccinated kid intentionally infects another kid then your kid has assaulted them which is a totally different crime. If your unvaccinated kid unintentionally infects another kid who sustains damage from the infection, you are technically culpable for that damage.
Compare it to drunk driving though. Tons of people drive drunk, and I'd bet that 0% of them are doing it in order to get in a fatal accident. So even though it's an accident when they do kill someone, they're still liable because they chose to put themselves into a scenario where they could cause someone else harm. Is that really all that different than abstaining from a vaccine?

Compare it to drunk driving though. Tons of people drive drunk, and I'd bet that 0% of them are doing it in order to get in a fatal accident. So even though it's an accident when they do kill someone, they're still liable because they chose to put themselves into a scenario where they could cause someone else harm. Is that really all that different than abstaining from a vaccine?

Did you just compare abstaining from a vaccination to drunk driving? And then just ask if they're really all that different?

Yes. They're that different.

Did you just compare abstaining from a vaccination to drunk driving? And then just ask if they're really all that different?

Yes. They're that different.
If there's one thing blf sucks at as a whole, it's making brown townogies.

If there's one thing blf sucks at as a whole, it's making brown townogies.
blf and brown townogies are like potatos and icecream.

blf and brown townogies are like potatos and icecream.
laughed too hard at this

You don't have the right to voluntarily allow your child to contract diseases and spread them to other people's children. The right for you to swing your fist ends at the tip of my nose, bitch.
You're no good at anologies, this same arguement could be made for "you dont have the right to x to cause y", your chld dying because i refused to give him a shot is the same likehood of him dying from some other god awful disease

blf and brown townogies are like potatos and icecream.

yo i'm sigging this