Author Topic: "(Racially) segregated classrooms improve learning" - Anita Sarkeesian  (Read 6408 times)


I'VE BEEN ONE-UPPED
you tricky man now i'll have to pull out the fallacy fallacy fallacy fallacy...

but the problem is people are all so insistent on branding themselves feminists, but the second another feminist comes along and says "i disagree" it's an argument about who is and isn't a feminist. if you try to pin feminism down to one belief, and oversimplify it like that, then it becomes fairly obvious that feminism is flawed if everybody in the group is constantly arguing about what fits that definition. and you can't exactly kick someone out of an ideology if they are a widely accepted representative for it too. and if the smarter people realize they're a stuffty representative, what does that say about the majority who still believes they are? would that just not reflect on the people making up the ideology?

I'VE BEEN ONE-UPPED
you tricky man now i'll have to pull out the fallacy fallacy fallacy fallacy...

it's a god dam fallacycle

but the problem is people are all so insistent on branding themselves feminists, but the second another feminist comes along and says "i disagree" it's an argument about who is and isn't a feminist. if you try to pin feminism down to one belief, and oversimplify it like that, then it becomes fairly obvious that feminism is flawed if everybody in the group is constantly arguing about what fits that definition. and you can't exactly kick someone out of an ideology if they are a widely accepted representative for it too. and if the smarter people realize they're a stuffty representative, what does that say about the majority who still believes they are? would that just not reflect on the people making up the ideology?

enter egalitarianism (as i understand it)

for people who would've been feminists if most feminists today weren't poopmongers

as a matter of fact i think labeling yourself causes a plethora of problems in the first place, just state what you believe and go from there.

sure it wont be as simple as people would like but also who cares

as a matter of fact i think labeling yourself causes a plethora of problems in the first place, just state what you believe and go from there.

The problem occurs when poe's law comes into effect, with people like Anita Sarkeesian saying extremist jargon that gets parodied so much that nobody can tell the difference between extremism and satire, thus degrading whatever movement or ideology Anita associated herself with even further.

it still isn't a group and you can't change what it stands for. you can't define it by its people, you only define it by its ideas (and divisions if necessary). the same goes for any religion.

you can argue all day about who is and isn't a shoe lover. at the end of the day, everyone still loves shoes, but they might individually express that love in different ways. if you're going to refer to an ideology as a collective, you have to make the distinction clear. feminism is an ideology. feminist is a person. people are fallible. ideologies are ideas. you have to concede individuality whenever you're using a collective, otherwise you'll probably start to handle people as constructed caricatures rather than as people.

basically, don't lump everyone together and then point out a big dummy pants and then say "AHA THE ENTIRE PANTS STORE IS DUMMY!" because that's silly, esp when the pants store isn't an actual place that exists, but rather a sociological phenomena existing as a result of the idea of selling pants.

Anita Sarkeesian is basically a cancer upon her movement. She doesn't believe a word she's saying, she's just trying to perpetuate this endless victim narrative because she makes mad loving cash off of it.

If man and woman were legally equal tomorrow in every imaginable way, Anita would be out of a job. She obviously doesn't want that.



I don't buy this. I don't care how pure and preternaturally perfect the concept of feminism is, if everyone who adopts it is a stufflord, then that's a bad reflection on the ideology.

At the end of the day: nobody actually has a problem with the ideology here. We just can't stand misandric bigots which constitutes a very loud and visible part of your movement. Sorry if that has a stuffty reflection on the original ideology of feminism, but that's nobody's fault but your own.

she makes money by just being discussed and clicked on.
she knows very well she speaks crazy bullstuff. because it does not matter.

you guys are all tools for arguing her credibility and intelligence.

i feel so sorry for actual feminists because people like anita sarkeesian destroy their work along with their ability to be taken seriously. so many people stufftalk feminism nowadays and honestly, i don't blame them. i don't call myself a feminist either because i don't want to associate myself with a movement that has toxic people like anita cashgreedsian in it

I don't buy this. I don't care how pure and preternaturally perfect the concept of feminism is, if everyone who adopts it is a stufflord, then that's a bad reflection on the ideology.

At the end of the day: nobody actually has a problem with the ideology here. We just can't stand misandric bigots which constitutes a very loud and visible part of your movement. Sorry if that has a stuffty reflection on the original ideology of feminism, but that's nobody's fault but your own.
yeah obviously, and the people that are being dinguses are to be held responsible for it

all i'm saying is it isn't really fair to extend that onto everyone else that isn't insane and as a way to dismiss a legitimate idea. and it's also kinda silly to assume it's a majority when they're very obviously just disproportionately represented as a result of their craziness
« Last Edit: May 23, 2015, 01:56:06 PM by otto-san »

she makes money by just being discussed and clicked on.
she knows very well she speaks crazy bullstuff. because it does not matter.

you guys are all tools for arguing her credibility and intelligence.

I agree 100%

If people stopped making fun of Anita, stopping following her videos to dislike them and just stop talking about her, she would fade away in a week. Her whole shtick is being a victim of gender prejudice, and any and all opposition is just fuel for her cash train

Anita Sarkeesian is basically a cancer upon her movement. She doesn't believe a word she's saying, she's just trying to perpetuate this endless victim narrative because she makes mad loving cash off of it.

If man and woman were legally equal tomorrow in every imaginable way, Anita would be out of a job. She obviously doesn't want that.
Technically, in the US and most of the first world, men and women are legally equal, aside from things like the draft.