Author Topic: Who here dislikes trans people?  (Read 51551 times)

So, what are you actually saying here? Yes, your biology is set in stone. It is hard, factual evidence of how you develop as a human being. This is why people actually take biological love seriously.

I don't know if you're purposely misunderstanding what I'm saying just to appear aloof. I said two posts ago I don't know much more on the topic of gender beyond what I just now read in a dictionary and have known for awhile.

How do you know that people don't take gender seriously? I mean, I don't know either except for the fact that you're still arguing about this.


Because nobody knows what the forget it's supposed to be. It's infinitely confusing.

I think the common pronouns I listed earlier explains what "gender" is supposed to be. If you still don't get it then I don't know what else to say


It's essentially just a label that you give yourself because you say you 'think' a certain way and yet nobody can tell if it's legitimate or not because nobody can climb inside your mind to see if you're actually crazy or if you just want to be a special snowflake in order to whore attention.

You're basically just projecting onto the argument now. I gave the textbook definition of gender. If that's not good enough for you, then find your own god damn definition


Apparently people can be 'genderfluid' which means that their, uh, behavioral mental masculine/feminine psychobabble complex can change at any point for any reason and changes any amount of anything in their mind. Also if you disagree you're a transphobe.

This line of thought is perpetuated by a small amount of people that reside in their own corner of the internet. I can assure you most people don't think like this.


How the forget is this supposed to mean anything to another human being. If you wanna give yourself some cool label so you can feel unique, go for it. Don't expect me to let you into the female bathroom for it.

Where is this horsestuff even coming from? This is almost completely unrelated to everything I've been saying. If you want to go yell at somebody for this, then actually find a place where this is relevant instead of complaining to us


not what you think of it.

You were asking for a definition and I gave the conventional definition. Yet that still wasn't enough, I guess. At this point you're better off doing your own research since you're not going to be content with anything anyone here says.


I don't get it. I don't see why I would become more confused by the removal of useless pronouns used to describe useless labels that I have no way of determining without explicitly asking.

There you go again calling pronouns useless. There's a reason we say "That's her soda" instead of saying "That's its soda". That's how english works. The removal of masculine or feminine pronouns would be extremely confusing.


Ironically enough the question was originally formatted to reflect the information you'd given me thus far.

You asked if being a male-to-female transloveual meant that you have latent feelings of washing dishes. If you don't think that's a stupid question than you have more deep seated issues than the "sjws" you're complaining about.

I was making a point. I'm not talking about you. You're insignificant to the topic at hand, I'm talking about the concept as a whole, not what you think of it.
So instead of arguing against the point he was citing, you changed the subject. Smooth.

What are you trying to argue? That gender is pointless? That we should all just use them/they/their/whateveridk for everyone?

Just gonna leave these here as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity
Yes, they're real. They're not just something someone made up.
Yes, they are in fact real mental issues that people should receive treatment for. I'm pretty sure that didn't need clarification.

What are you trying to argue? That gender is pointless? That we should all just use them/they/their/whateveridk for everyone?
There is no reason to care about anything beyond one's biological love.

Yes, they are in fact real mental issues that people should receive treatment for. I'm pretty sure that didn't need clarification.
That's what a lot of them, like VH, are doing.

A quote from Wikipedia: "The current medical approach to treatment for persons diagnosed with GID is to support the individual in physically modifying the body to better match the psychological gender identity.[10] This approach is based on the concept that their experience is based in a medical problem correctable by various forms of medical intervention." The problem that a lot of transgendered have is that they might not be able to afford treatment, which is apparently quite expensive, so most don't ever get treatment.

If one of your friends were to kindly tell you that they would be more comfortable if you called them say, a he instead of a she, what purpose would saying no have? All you'd do is probably lose a friend and make them feel even more uncomfortable with themselves than they already likely are.

If you think you have some sort of big breakthrough on how to "normal-fy" them, I'm sure a lot of psychologists would love to hear it. Until then, I'd rather put my faith in trained professionals.

You contradicted yourself. You said you're not addressing labels and then you explained it as 'being labeled something they're not'. What possible reason could this 'irritation' have to exist? What are they being labeled as, and what should they be labeled as, and why should they, and why should that label mean anything to anyone but themselves?
I wasn't originally addressing labels, just explaining what gender is. I addressed your reply because it seemed like a better alternative then saying "I'm not talking about that, bye." Would you have preferred that?
I can't answer a lot of these questions because I'm not trans. Research them yourself, listen to what people have to say with an open mind instead of dismissing it with "lol you're delusional"

So that's just it? You say it is because you say it is?
This doesn't explain what gender is, it's like saying "trust me bro, it's real, you just don't know cuz you don't have it"
Actually I did provide a link full of history, but OK, whatever you say lol

and providing no further evidence. This is now how anything works. Just because something's alleged existence doesn't cause any real harm doesn't mean that it's okay to believe that it does actually exist.
Are you actually claiming transgender doesn't exist? Look around. And before you dismiss them as delusional, read into biology a bit. Here's how prenatal development works: in the womb, a lot of stuff is controlled by hormones. If something goes wrong at the wrong time, stuff can develop improperly. Ex: if a child has XY chromosomes, it's genetically a male, but if there isn't enough testosterone present during the proper time in the womb, it will develop with a vagina.This is stuff that's well known, and if you don't believe me, you can look it up yourself. You keep saying "biological love" but in this example you having two conflicting biological aspects.


Also, I'm fairly sure that in order to start hormone therapy or love reassignment surgery, you need a psychiatrists OK. So there's that factor in determining whether someone is legit or just attention seeking, an actual professional in the field, far more knowledgeable on the subject than you or I

being transgendered is a mental illness



For lack of a better term, it.... pretty much is (see: gender identity disorder)
People usually stray away from that term only out of political correctness


...so? yeah its a mental illness. so what

...so? yeah its a mental illness. so what
that means transgendered people are mentally unstable and shouldn't be making decisions about their body

that means transgendered people are mentally unstable and shouldn't be making decisions about their body
that's debatable
i say that if changing their gender to better suit them, whatever that means, makes them feel better they should be allowed to do it.

that means transgendered people are mentally unstable and shouldn't be making decisions about their body
a) having a condition =/= being unstable

b)
I'm fairly sure that in order to start hormone therapy or love reassignment surgery, you need a psychiatrists OK