Ban on possession of child research takes effect in Japan

[Maxwell.]

i don't mean like just plain viewing it, but viewing it with intent to jack off to it

the producer or whoever forgeted the children are still 10x as bad

[Ad Bot]

[Dreams_Of_Cheese]

the producer or whoever forgeted the children are still 10x as bad

obviously the people directly involved in making it are worse, but that shouldn't absolve the people they're making it for of any fault. they wouldn't be making it and selling it if people didn't buy it.

[Maxwell.]

but that shouldn't absolve the people they're making it for of any fault.

of course not, he said the people who look at it are as bad as the people who make it
they aren't the ones having love with the child and causing it emotional stress

[McZealot]

obviously the people directly involved in making it are worse, but that shouldn't absolve the people they're making it for of any fault. they wouldn't be making it and selling it if people didn't buy it.

actually this is a point I can stand by. Purchasing child research directly encourages people to rape more kids. I was just assuming people download it for free when I argued before.

they aren't the ones having love with the child and causing it emotional stress

"causing a child emotional stress" is a rather casual way to say "abducting and raping a child to film and sell and then do it again"
but i know what you mean lol.

[Nonnel]

well obviously they're getting some sort of revenue for it, otherwise why would they do it other than to just be sick freaks

[Dreams_Of_Cheese]

actually this is a point I can stand by. Purchasing child research directly encourages people to rape more kids. I was just assuming people download it for free when I argued before.

even viewing it for free is terrible, because that's the direct result of child rape. again, not as bad as selling or buying it but it still really shouldn't be in circulation. all that does is encourage people to make even more.

[Katadeus]

Why doesn't anybody loving address the issue?
The problems that CP viewing causes are these.
They create an association with children and love. This isn't something that will do a huge amount of damage, but it's an association that can't help people who are already impulsively attracted to children. It's not going to push normal people into raping children, but it could fuel already existing problems.
The children in child research could find the images, or be found by people who have seen the images. This can either create new damage socially or internally, or bring back memories of things that they don't want to be reminded of.
The consistent viewership of child research solidifies a market for it. I don't expect that there's any kind of CP community, but people will do all sorts of awful things if they have positive reinforcement.

I probably missed some stuff too.
I feel like Zealot has been more reasonable in this topic than he is getting credit for. Explain your reasoning, offer decent argument. Don't just yell.

ahh, some of this has been addressed now that I have this all typed up.

[McZealot]

well obviously they're getting some sort of revenue for it, otherwise why would they do it other than to just be sick freaks

My mother is a lawyer and she has worked with child enthusiasts. I can only recall one instance of a child research charge but the man was sharing photos with another man over a public forum. they would start off with creepy legal stuff "oooh yeah send me a pic of your kid sleeping" and then send one back in response. soon they were literally raping the kids in their basements and pming videos of it to one another. It's revolting and much more so than crimes like normal rape because it diectly targets the weak and innocent.

[Ipquarx]

actually this is a point I can stand by. Purchasing child research directly encourages people to rape more kids. I was just assuming people download it for free when I argued before.

It can still be monetized through advertisements and possibly even a download counter on the file itself, like click systems on a news site. that can't be blocked through adblocker.

[Otis Da HousKat]

The child research industry is gross because it's all dirty eastern European girls who are shuffled off into the regular love trade once they're too old and then either overdose or kill themselves.

[Yosher]

The child research industry is gross because it's all dirty eastern European girls who are shuffled off into the regular love trade once they're too old and then either overdose or kill themselves.

that, and it's child research

[·:Taboo:·]

While everything so far is just an opinion this statement is blatantly false. It's takes a tougher person to admit they are wrong than to stand by their point.

does this make you the weakest man on the planet

However an image of it is different because the child is not affected by it's viewing. Nice strawman.

oh, cool, let's see you post some of these harmless images then

that doesn't mean I want it banned. I'm tolerant.

what the forget is wrong with you

your talent for completely ignoring people who are correct against you would normally make me think you're trolling, but the frequency that this happens with makes me more worried that you have a legitimate mental issue.

[Otis Da HousKat]

that, and it's child research

That's a valid point too...

[McZealot]

damn i actually hoped this argument could come to a calm and respectable close but then taboo posted "what the forget is wrong with you ya little mental case". if we just ignore his post entirely (willful ignorance i know) and respond to cheese and ip i think it'll go a lot better.


I don't consider it wrong to look at an image. However DreamsofCheese and Ipquarx remarked about how the viewing of it usually contributes money in some form to the production of new content and that is terrible. So good job--you guys actually changed my mind. Taboo argued "its wrong!".

So to recap: In theory nothing is wrong with seeing an image. In reality the process of obtaining that image involves supporting a terrible cause.

[MYST]

but loli is cp.................