video shows la cops shooting 2 unarmed men, killing one of them

[Alternat¡ve]

if you take off your hat you get shot now

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-federal-judge-orders-release-of-videos-20150714-story.html#page=1

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[ZombiLoin]

man, if only there was a type of non-lethal ranged weapon police officers could use to restrain and handle their suspects... something that used electricity, and fired prongs that stun people.

what am i thinking. that's silly talk.

[MoltenKitten]

To be fair you aren't supposed to make movements unless ordered too but this is still excessive. Cops are supposed to make us feel safe yet even I, someone who has never broken a law, fear them.

[Ipquarx]

man, if only there was a type of non-lethal ranged weapon police officers could use to restrain and handle their suspects... something that used electricity, and fired prongs that stun people.

what am i thinking. that's silly talk.

Tasers don't always work believe it or not, some people can shake off the shock like it's nothing for example, and they can only be used at close range. It could also theoretically cause a suspect to discharge their weapon by accident.

I haven't watched the video, but if an officers life is in danger a taser is definitely not the way to go. They're not a one-stop solution.

[Kimon²]

man, if only there was a type of non-lethal ranged weapon police officers could use to restrain and handle their suspects... something that used electricity, and fired prongs that stun people.

what am i thinking. that's silly talk.

what? bullstuff. you're on some stuff. i heard in other countries police officers killing civilians is incredibly rare, and not something that happens every day. wonder how they do that.

[Narkro555]

The police acted lawfully. The person shot didn't just take off his hat. He was also moving towards the officers, yelling, and raising and lowering his hands. One of them even reaches into his pocket. Finally, after ignoring multiple commands by the officers in both English and Spanish, he takes off his hat and his hands drop down towards his waist. Multiple times any of the suspects could have pulled a concealed weapon. I would be paranoid too in this situation if I were a cop, and it's not because of their skin color or language.

They were cleared by the DA, see source here: http://documents.latimes.com/da-memo-gardena-police-shooting-unarmed-men-captured-video/

[ZombiLoin]

The police acted lawfully. The person shot didn't just take off his hat. He was also moving towards the officers, yelling, and raising and lowering his hands. One of them even reaches into his pocket. Finally, after ignoring multiple commands by the officers in both English and Spanish, he takes off his hat and his hands drop down towards his waist. Multiple times any of the suspects could have pulled a concealed weapon. I would be paranoid too in this situation if I were a cop, and it's not because of their skin color or language.

which is a perfect reason to shoot somebody, apparently.

again it'd be great if they had tasers. the things that are supposed to provide a non-lethal option.

[ZombiLoin]

They were cleared by the DA, see source here: http://documents.latimes.com/da-memo-gardena-police-shooting-unarmed-men-captured-video/

Just because they were cleared by the DA doesn't mean there was no wrongdoing.

[Ipquarx]

again it'd be great if they had tasers. the things that are supposed to provide a non-lethal option.

if an officers life is (even potentially) in danger a taser is definitely not the way to go. They're not a one-stop solution.

[jonnyman5656]

which is a perfect reason to shoot somebody, apparently.

It loving is.
The cops had no idea if they had a weapon or not. At the time before the body was checked

Also tasers are mostly used when there are 3 or more cops.

[Narkro555]

which is a perfect reason to shoot somebody, apparently.

again it'd be great if they had tasers. the things that are supposed to provide a non-lethal option.

I too am supportive of more non-violent measures of police conduct, such as mandatory martial arts training, rather than just beating people to subdue them if violent. But LA is notorious for violence, and when people don't obey commands at gunpoint and instead continue to reach into locations where a gun could be concealed, the officers had reasonable suspicion that their lives were in danger. Multiple times they reached down towards their waists.

It is without a shadow of a doubt depressing that these men were shot while unarmed. But don't demonize the police over it. They acted lawfully. Also, a taser might make them seize up and fire a weapon if they have a grip on it, not to mention it sometimes doesn't work anyway.

[Decepticon]

Cops are supposed to make us feel safe yet even I, someone who has never broken a law, fear them.

don't say this, you're pretty much saying you're making yourself live in fear all officers really without a good reason.

it's no reason to start assuming just any cop is just going to do this to you for no reason

[Kimon²]

nobody is immune to tasers, only if the taser malfunctions, or a user error happens, can they shrug it off.

[Pie Crust]

2013

nobody is immune to tasers, only if the taser malfunctions, or a user error happens, can they shrug it off.

Some people are more resistant to electrical currents than others. A whalelord would take more than one tazer to immobilize.