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I don't know why anyone is actually still arguing with this obsessed kekking memetard over this.

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[Mr.Blocko]

I don't know why anyone is actually still arguing with this obsessed kekking memetard over this.

Let me give you all the stuff I've found so you can stop being an ass.

1. The wellbia\XIGNCODE3 official website (http://www.wellbia.com/home/en/) states nothing of the sort when you go into its 'features'

2. This is a little off, but do a Google search containing something along the lines of 'dirty bomb spyware' or 'XIGNCODE3 spyware' or even 'XIGNCODE3 tracking personal data' you won't find anything except for a few Reddit and steam links that have been denounced false, but people keep thinking it's true like everyone who posted in this topic the last 12 hours.

3. If it were true lots of news sources would be jumping on it to get more readers, like they did with Windows 10: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Windows+10+spyware

4. Somebody would have sued Nexon for not stating it tracks your personal data (practically free money)

5. If you were to debug the game, it counts that as cheating, so everyone who debugged its processes is getting scanned and that's why it looks like its doing that even if your not hacking.

6. If XIGNCODE3 were spyware, valve would have removed every game currently using it, which is a lot of games on steam.

Steam and Reddit topics don't count as a proper source, so don't link those ever link something OFFICAL and FACTUAL a source like a dev or company is official like what I linked earlier (http://dfo-notice.blogspot.kr/2015/03/about-xigncode3-issue.html)



I could probably keep going if I wanted to but I think that's enough, yes the anti-cheat is stuff, I agree with that, there is a reason for it: https://youtu.be/PaPLy7EQh4s This video is the best way I've seen to describe it, it also debunks that X3 is spyware.

I agree Nexon is a power/money hungry company, and most everything they do is stuff, but so far DB is the only game I can enjoy that they were involved in, the only evidence I could see of them is that they have their logo on the startup screen, they don't even have their weird ass double password thing, there is no log in effort like Nexons usual games.

And for those of you who don't bother to read, Nexon PUBLISHED the game, they did not help in the development at all.

Now then skip, lay off my ass, if anyone tries to argue with this again I will just quote this and be done with it, this is plenty enough info for you, I spent hours at the beginning of this topic reading through an EULA for a few hours just to disprove this, but you asses won't stop with this so I've had to spend an even larger part of the day finding all of this, I'm done and you all should be as well, I will send an email to Wellbia later today to ask if XIGNCODE3 can track your data, if they say anything, I will post it here.

[Alphadin]

the fact that you have to defend it so much makes it seem like it's sort of a hassle to just own the game

[Mr.Blocko]

the fact that you have to defend it so much makes it seem like it's sort of a hassle to just own the game

It wasn't a hassle until I posted this topic, and it shouldn't be, people have just misread and gone to far with it.

[IkeTheGeneric]

All of this "explaining" pretty much fringes on the fact that you're giving nexon the benefit of the doubt

[Mr.Blocko]

All of this "explaining" pretty much fringes on the fact that you're giving nexon the benefit of the doubt

I agree Nexon is a power/money hungry company, and most everything they do is stuff, but so far DB is the only game I can enjoy that they were involved in, the only evidence I could see of them is that they have their logo on the startup screen, they don't even have their weird ass double password thing, there is no log in effort like Nexons usual games.

Not in the slightest.

I'm glad I made that post so I can quote it instead of wasting more time.

[Zharthon]

Not in the slightest.

I'm glad I made that post so I can quote it instead of wasting more time.

get off of your high horse, thanks.

[IkeTheGeneric]

Not in the slightest.

I'm glad I made that post so I can quote it instead of wasting more time.

I get that you like the game and all but this is practically denial

Ipquarx straight up provided solid proof that it goes through your files and you just ignored it

[Ipquarx]

Let me give you all the stuff I've found so you can stop being an ass.

1. The wellbia\XIGNCODE3 official website (http://www.wellbia.com/home/en/) states nothing of the sort when you go into its 'features'

2. This is a little off, but do a Google search containing something along the lines of 'dirty bomb spyware' or 'XIGNCODE3 spyware' or even 'XIGNCODE3 tracking personal data' you won't find anything except for a few Reddit and steam links that have been denounced false, but people keep thinking it's true like everyone who posted in this topic the last 12 hours.

3. If it were true lots of news sources would be jumping on it to get more readers, like they did with Windows 10: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Windows+10+spyware

4. Somebody would have sued Nexon for not stating it tracks your personal data (practically free money)

5. If you were to debug the game, it counts that as cheating, so everyone who debugged its processes is getting scanned and that's why it looks like its doing that even if your not hacking.

6. If XIGNCODE3 were spyware, valve would have removed every game currently using it, which is a lot of games on steam.

Steam and Reddit topics don't count as a proper source, so don't link those ever link something OFFICAL and FACTUAL a source like a dev or company is official like what I linked earlier (http://dfo-notice.blogspot.kr/2015/03/about-xigncode3-issue.html)



I could probably keep going if I wanted to but I think that's enough, yes the anti-cheat is stuff, I agree with that, there is a reason for it: https://youtu.be/PaPLy7EQh4s This video is the best way I've seen to describe it, it also debunks that X3 is spyware.

I agree Nexon is a power/money hungry company, and most everything they do is stuff, but so far DB is the only game I can enjoy that they were involved in, the only evidence I could see of them is that they have their logo on the startup screen, they don't even have their weird ass double password thing, there is no log in effort like Nexons usual games.

And for those of you who don't bother to read, Nexon PUBLISHED the game, they did not help in the development at all.

1. They actually do mention things along the lines of "Accessed account/system mapping information" "Hacking tool detection log information" both of which would involve scanning over files on the computer. Plus, nowhere do they mention any sort of legally binding agreement on what they do and do not do. I know you compared this stuff to windows 10 so I'll say it here: Windows 10 didn't put "Will pull any of your private files at any time for any reason" in their "Reasons to switch to windows 10" videos. Doesn't mean it's not there.

2. I've seen absolutely no evidence that anything posted is fake, no evidence that it doesn't scan files. I've even looked on their forums, look at this topic: http://forums.dirtybomb.nexon.net/discussion/13227/xgincode-violating-several-eu-laws-on-privacy There's not even a single message that denies its scanning through personal files, no comforting admin message, the only argument going on is whether or not it breaks EU law. I haven't found a single result that actually debunks anything.

3. That's not an excuse for denying the invasive nature of the program, plus, it doesn't get a lot of attention because it's not major enough. XIGNCODE only exists in a few games by Nexon, which is one company out of tens of thousands that make games, and 99% of players and even tech-savvy people never find out about it because it doesn't have a lot of existing coverage.

4. Again, THAT'S NOT THE XIGNCODE EULA. That's the NEXON eula. Two separate things.

5. What? He's not debugging the program. He's using the resource manager that's built into windows 7+. All it does is let you see which files processes are accessing. If it was detected as a hack tool his account would have been banned and there's no mention of that. Plus, even if it did detect it as a hack tool that wouldn't mean that it's suddenly required to look through your browser history and external drives, like, wat.

6. There's nothing that makes it illegal, so no they wouldn't.

The video you linked doesn't actually debunk anything. It doesn't show that it doesn't unnecessarily scan private and identifying files such as your browser history and external drives, which it has been shown to do. The second problem with your video is that he completely disregards the fact that it actually sends the file names and other info about the file directly to the xigncode servers, where they can potentially do whatever they want with it. This has already been proven, and dismissing it because it's not by "an official source" is laughable. That is where the invasion of privacy comes in. As far as I know, xigncode is the only one that does this.

If you have any actual evidence that it doesn't scan personal files and send them back to xigncode (which it has been shown to do by multiple people) then I welcome it with open arms.

I'm not trying to make your life hell here, I'm simply following the evidence. The evidence says that this anti-cheat is unnecessarily invasive and has potential use of data mining. You don't have to deny it either, if you're okay with the collection then that's fine, but I'd appreciate if it could at least get a mention in the OP that it does indeed reveal potentially sensitive information about files on your computer.

[Spartan923]

I guess one plus is that they are working on getting a new anticheat soon
soo

[Lord Furdle]

Add me to the list please. my steam is http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198072462652

[Mr.Blocko]

I'm not trying to make your life hell here, I'm simply following the evidence. The evidence says that this anti-cheat is unnecessarily invasive and has potential use of data mining. You don't have to deny it either, if you're okay with the collection then that's fine, but I'd appreciate if it could at least get a mention in the OP that it does indeed reveal potentially sensitive information about files on your computer.

Thanks for the first comment, but I'm not in denial, the issue is that I haven't seen a source from a dev or nexon or any other company that uses XIGNCODE3 that says that it can track your data, I've only seen the one that states the opposite, and I don't think it's a lie.

About the video, that was mostly to explain why XIGNCODE3 is stuffty in terms of anti cheats go, the EULA thing just happened to be in there, so I might as well have said that it was.

I have a Reddit topic going on /r/Dirtybomb to see if I can get any devs to respond because there pretty active on there.

Thanks for not being an starfish, genuinely thank you, but that's my reasoning, and that's the reason why I still have some hope that Splash Damage hasn't gotten themselves forgeted.

So help me out here with getting something out of nexon or the devs?

[Mr.Blocko]

Add me to the list please. my steam is http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198072462652

Sorry for shameless double posts, I had a failed OC so I'll add you when I get my PC back up and running.

And for those that want to see the Reddit topic I got going: https://www.reddit.com/r/Dirtybomb/comments/3hh138/concerns_over_xigncode3_that_need_to_be_resolved/

[Jubel]

Thanks for the first comment, but I'm not in denial, the issue is that I haven't seen a source from a dev or nexon or any other company that uses XIGNCODE3 that says that it can track your data, I've only seen the one that states the opposite, and I don't think it's a lie.

I can assure you the devs won't bother responding to it because it rises up a bunch of controversy that dev teams usually don't want to deal with, because it will result in a loss of potential users and current users.
You'll get a copy-pasted response about how it works in a vague manner and feel satisfied with the response but ultimately you'll end up learning nothing.

[Lord Furdle]

Looking to support devs and buy something for the game (between £5-£15)
Any suggestions of what I should get?