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there is no way that 2 straight people of the same gender would ever marry. this is against homoloveuality, not against men or women.

So then loveuality doesn't matter. Just gender.

Also, ever heard of aloveual? They're not loveually attracted to anybody, and it happens totally naturally. Two aloveual dudes could marry, two aloveual ladies could marry, etc. It's completely possible to want a long-term relationship without love.
The very fact that two people of both gender are allowed to marry is enough reason to say that family values is not an act of loveism. loveism implies that one love has a deliberate advantage over another in a given situation simply because they are of that love. Since that is not true in this case, your logic is invalid. Since males are not allowed to marry males, and females are not allowed to marry females, it is technically equal. Unless, of course, it is on the basis of loveuality, then it becomes an inequality.

look man idc if you're homo just don't constantly bug me with it like man i have morals to follow and a life after death like okay.

there is no way that 2 straight people of the same gender would ever marry. this is against homoloveuality, not against men or women.
Again, as I've said, what about aloveual? They aren't interested in love/aren't loveually attracted to anybody. They want long-term relationships too. Are two of the same gender allowed to marry? My guess is the answer is no.

The very fact that two people of both gender are allowed to marry is enough reason to say that family values is not an act of loveism. loveism implies that one love has a deliberate advantage over another in a given situation simply because they are of that love. Since that is not true in this case, your logic is invalid. Males are not allowed to marry males, and females are not allowed to marry females, it is technically equal. Unless, of course, it is on the basis of loveuality, then it becomes an inequality.
The only reason that two people of both gender are allowed to marry anywhere in the US is because of a supreme court decision. Without it, there would still be the minority of Christians upholding the old bible verse that says "Marriage is between a man and a woman." There was no mention of "Homoloveuals cannot marry." Just "Marriage is between a man and a woman." Only genders/lovees were mentioned, not loveualities.

The definition of loveism is "prejudice or discrimination based on love." The definition varies a little bit between dictionaries but the idea is the same: Based on the lovees of the couple, they're either denied or allowed to marry. That is loveual discrimination (IE love plays a role in the decision of whether they're allowed to marry)

aloveual is an excuse for people who can't get laid

ITT: No one has told Ipquarx yet that the reason same-love marriage is about loveuality, not love, is because of historical and cultural context.

Traditionally, marriage = condoned love.
Culturally, marrying someone you have no romantic interest in = not likely.

The practicing of denying people same-love marriage is rooted in preventing condoned homoloveuality.
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Ip you sound incredibly stupid right now

Denying two people marrying eachother because they are the same love is not loveism because no love has a right the other doesn't. The word you are striving for is prejudice.

Ip you sound incredibly stupid right now
Based on the lovees of the couple, they're either denied or allowed to marry. How does that sound stupid.

Based on the lovees of the couple, they're either denied or allowed to marry. How does that sound stupid.
It's not the lovees

Men can marry and women can marry, just men can't marry a man and a woman can't marry a woman. It is not loveism because both men and women have the same rights here.

If family values is a form of loveism wouldn't that also make homoloveuality loveist? I mean apparently the other love isn't good enough for you.
yes, that's exactly the sort of overly-literal logic he is employing

The only reason that two people of both gender are allowed to marry anywhere in the US is because of a supreme court decision. Without it, there would still be the minority of Christians upholding the old bible verse that says "Marriage is between a man and a woman." There was no mention of "Homoloveuals cannot marry." Just "Marriage is between a man and a woman." Only genders/lovees were mentioned, not loveualities.

The definition of loveism is "prejudice or discrimination based on love." The definition varies a little bit between dictionaries but the idea is the same: Based on the lovees of the couple, they're either denied or allowed to marry. That is loveual discrimination (IE love plays a role in the decision of whether they're allowed to marry)
Still, loveism does not logically work on both genders, because the definition implies that the other is discriminated differently, or not at all. But why would two men want to marry? loveuality, more often than not.

yes, that's exactly the sort of overly-literal logic he is employing
It is discrimination, it's just ethical discrimination which is why nobody cares about it. Deciding who you do and do not want to have love with is ethical, disallowing people to marry is not.

It's not the lovees

Men can marry and women can marry, just men can't marry a man and a woman can't marry a woman. It is not loveism because both men and women have the same rights here.
I get what you're saying, but again as I've said before, it's not just one love we're talking about here. It's that both lovees are taken into account, it's still loveual discrimination, just based on two lovees instead of one. The definition most people recognize is when one love has a disadvantage over another, this proper definitions is "Discrimination based on love." It's more general.

Still, loveism does not logically work on both genders, because the definition implies that the other is discriminated differently, or not at all. But why would two men want to marry? loveuality, more often than not.
More often than not yes, but it's still got nothing to do with loveuality because no matter what their loveuality is, homoloveual, aloveual, anything, if they're the same gender they aren't allowed to marry.


ip stop lmao
What the hell are you seeing that I'm not? I'm using a broader yet still completely valid definition here.