I see some fair points but
Geez.
Why stick up for breaking the law? It's there to keep us safe right? What if they start rampaging and breaking stuff left and right, you could have just ended it before it started. What's fun about getting hungover and having a massive headache the next morning anyway. If he calls the cops, its for their own safety and he probably doesn't want her to be doing Illegal activities. It's to teach her a lesson, scare her straight.
WTF? -this bit isn't about the point- I just wrote out a full argument, clicked post and got a "you have been blocked from blockland.us" error... Now I have to write it again ffs.
It's not at all about sticking up for breaking the law, laws should be followed when they are logical and actually provide something for people.
Right now in Australia it is illegal to report in any way the events currently going down in our overseas refugee camps, murder, rape, violence, child molestation and abuse have all been recognized as common occurrences in these facilities by both guards and refugees alike, yet if anyone tries to show people or speak out about the lack of human rights going on in these prisons they will be jailed. An actual journalist going to a refugee camp is regarded by the law as highly as a bomb threat and they have full squads of police, SWAT and backup guards to combat and information leaked. This is in Australia but is a clear example of where the law has failed, the people that passed these laws are not doing it to keep people safe or for any sense of justice, that is an ideal but unrealistic notion. They have their own reasons to censor the atrocious events taking place there whilst letting the abusers and molesters not only remain at large, but they have the sense of security to think "I can beat/rape this child and nobody can say anything about it"
Are they rampaging and breaking stuff left and right? No? So don't call the cops on them based off of your senseless paranoia and control freak personality that makes you feel so compelled not to let anyone make their own decisions. Maybe what they're doing is a mistake, some mistakes need to be learnt yourself. There's nothing fun about hangovers, people don't drink and go to parties to get hangovers, they endure hangovers because they had a stuffload of fun at the party and it seems worth it. It is an incredibly self righteous and controlling idea to think that you need to intervene on these people because you don't understand why they're doing it or what's so fun about it, it has nothing to do with you. (for the record when I'm saying 'you' I'm usually meaning OP or whoever is making the argued points)
Calling the cops wont teach anyone a lesson or set anybody straight, that is a complete misunderstanding of the nature of people. You can call the cops but that wont change a thing, your sister wont decide to wait until she is legally allowed to drink because the police told her to call off the party that one night, everyone will continue doing just as before only now his sister has 0 respect for her stuffty little brother.
The only difference calling the cops will have on these kids is whether they talk about how "that was an fun party" or "omg i cant believe the cops came lol that was so crazy"
That stuff wont change, except now you've installed some nice trust barriers between your own family and how all her friends will talk about how much of a friend her little brother is for dobbing on their party.
Riddler maintained order through dividing people with the law, his snitching policies were designed to make even families lose trust in each other. Through fear of your own siblings selling you out to the authorities people could trust no one, were not able to express themselves or make their own decisions, thus isolating people and keeping them controlled. Yeah the law was pretty helpful then.
Laws change, what was legal once is now illegal and vice versa, what is illegal somewhere is legal somewhere else, laws are created by humans for their own means and ideals, not a sense of justice and a longing to keep everybody safe and cozy at home. Laws are not a stable point to base your moral judgement off of, you need to figure that out yourself and through conversing with people, though good luck having and close and trusting conversations when everybody thinks you're a paranoid snitching douche.
all the druggies defending underage drinking lol
I'm going to use this quote as an example for all the "rec thred druggies coming in here" posts cause I cbf getting a better one.
It's not about defending underage drinking it's about not being a dumbass. Weigh up the situation and realize that far more harm will come from intervening on these peoples actions than just letting them be.
Now here's the hard part to swallow so lets be honest with ourselves for a sec, most of the people on this forum are not only very young but inexperienced in these sort of ongoings and for some part self righteous social outcasts.
Where the "rec drug thread people" come in is from a point of experience, if you've actually looked through the rec drug thread you will see that the main posters are fair and actually think quite a bit about their actions as well as what they say to others. That's because these people have actually been to a lot of parties and experienced these things, thus having an actual idea of what's happening and what the dangers/senseless paranoias are.
I drank while underage many times, I'm not here defending underage drinking to justify that to myself or to try and "look cool because you go to parties" but because I've been there and done that and I know that you are all fretting over nothing.
It's not your decision whether or not her and her friends get to drink or not.
It has nothing to do with you.
Don't be a richard and involve yourself.
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