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Author Topic: What are your reasons for believing whatever you may believe about Christianity?  (Read 17803 times)

stuffposting adds nothing to the discussion, lol.

If he put it into more civilized words, maybe nobody would care, but he used memes and spiteful stereotypes to push his point.

stuffposting adds nothing to the discussion, lol.
No stuff
lol so funy

I despise Christianity, as with all religions, (-removed for cringy reasons don't mind me-) it promotes things that are stupid, crazy, delusional, and down right repulsive.


I can turn water into wine!
I can rise from the dead!
I built a giant loving boat!
TALKING SNAKE!i had to say that, it's too funny to pass up



God is an unfalsifiable hypothesis. I can think up a thousand different ones:

Magic carrots forget op up the ass when he's sleeping, and the carrots can't be documented in any way


And don't get me stated o Islam
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what in the world lol. what made you so bothered about it?
Just the fact that it's not possible in the real world. The thought of a talking bush (burning as well, mind you) is just absolute insanity to me.

No stuff
lol so funy

I despise Christianity, as with all religions, (well, maybe except for Pagenism, I like the concept of it) it promotes things that are stupid, crazy, delusional, and down right repulsive.


I can turn water into wine!
I can rise from the dead!
I built a giant loving boat!
TALKING SNAKE!i had to say that, it's too funny to pass up



God is an unfalsifiable hypothesis. I can think up a thousand different ones:

Magic carrots forget op up the ass when he's sleeping, and the carrots can't be documented in any way


And don't get me stated o Islam
Paganism is any religion outside of the Abrahamic religions, you can't like the general concept of paganism because that is literally thousands of faiths

it promotes things that are stupid, crazy, delusional, and down right repulsive.

Just the fact that it's not possible in the real world. The thought of a talking bush (burning as well, mind you) is just absolute insanity to me.

They sound crazy to you, but to a believer, anything is possible. The world is yours as you perceive it.
What if all the crazy bullstuff that religions promote are only seen through the eyes of a true believer? Only somebody of pure faith and religious obedience can make sense of their beliefs.

OT: To be honest, i'm nonaffiliated with any major religions. I believe in a god, but not with human-like features such as emotions and kindness, etc. I believe in a creator that is all-benevolent, and creates/helps only for the sake of its creations, not for the sake of itself, and therefore does not wish to be worshipped. With this mentality, I live my life with the idea that my greater purpose is to succeed, as I have been given life and wish not to waste it.

Our purpose as humans is to be somebody, to exist and be remembered, either through our personalities or our creations. If we put love and care into a hand crafted project, we wish for it to be well known and serve its purpose. This applies to higher levels.

I don't trust it. I don't really agree with this either but some people claim that carbon levels have recently skyrocketed, therefore making carbon dating extremely inaccurate. I know nothing about this so I'm not about to try to act like I know what I'm talking about. Just something I've heard.
Anyone can say "I don't trust X." That doesn't make it true. If you provide evidence, then your claim starts to have some validity. I looked for this claim of carbon levels skyrocketing, but found nothing. In fact, the only thing I found seems to suggest carbon dating has gotten MORE accurate, and that dates are accurate within a few hundred years. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/carbon-dating-gets-reset/

And what about redshift?
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The thought of a going to a really nice place as reward for not being a richard during life seemed pretty nice

I don't trust it.
See this is the biggest problem when you try to have an actual debate with (a lot of) religious people about the subject. No matter how much hard evidence you present, they can just cop out of it by saying "I don't believe that"

To me, "I don't trust/believe it" just feels like a less self-deprecating way of saying "I don't understand it." Try to get a creationist to summarize what the theory of evolution actually states, most of them (that I've seen try) can't explain it.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2015, 01:36:25 PM by Headcrab Zombie »

I find it easier to believe there's not a giant magic man in the sky or that I get to live in the clouds or in the core of the earth for all eternity after I die

Religion was made to explain what, at the time, was unexplainable. I'd rather put my faith into the means for finding out what we don't know than what we assumed thousands of years ago

seems to suggest carbon dating has gotten MORE accurate, and that dates are accurate within a few hundred years. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/carbon-dating-gets-reset/

Science and religion don't work together. We exist on one plane of existence, so all the science we base our life around only applies to us, not beings of higher existence. If there's more than one dimension, there's the possibility for universe-breaking anomalies such as a god.

And if there's the theory of infinite timelines, there are timelines in which humans have elevated to a different, higher plane of existence. AKA we're all immortal in a different timeline.


Anything is possible in theory.

Religion was made to explain what, at the time, was unexplainable. I'd rather put my faith into the means for finding out what we don't know than what we assumed thousands of years ago
Yeah, see, to me, religion accomplished two purposes:
1. Provide a means to explain the unexplainable to satisfy human's curiosity (what you said)
and
2. provide a means of governing people by offering the reward of eternal paradise for behaving and the threat of eternal damnation for not behaving.

None of these are really relevant anymore, as we have now reliable ways of explaining things and enforcing rules

Science and religion don't work together. We exist on one plane of existence, so all the science we base our life around only applies to us, not beings of higher existence. If there's more than one dimension, there's the possibility for universe-breaking anomalies such as a god.
How is that relevant to what he said?

Remember we're not talking about A god, we're talking about the Christian God as the Bible says it. I'm pretty sure there's only one universe in the Bible.

Science and religion don't work together. We exist on one plane of existence, so all the science we base our life around only applies to us, not beings of higher existence. If there's more than one dimension, there's the possibility for universe-breaking anomalies such as a god.

And if there's the theory of infinite timelines, there are timelines in which humans have elevated to a different, higher plane of existence. AKA we're all immortal in a different timeline.


Anything is possible in theory.
I don't see how that's relevant to that specific part of my post, but yes, anything is possible, however just because something's possible doesn't imply that it's true. Anything beyond our observable reality is by default unverifiable and unfalsifiable so long as it wouldn't interfere with our universe. That's why we have the scientific process, to weed out the unlikely and unprovable things and allow the likely things to float to the surface.

How is that relevant to what he said?
If evidence itself is up in the air and all relative to our perceivable world, then evidence is only credible in our universe/plane of existence.

Religions imply that there's a greater plane of existence, so evidence only works for us, and can only prove things true or false in our world.

I don't see how that's relevant to that specific part of my post, but yes, anything is possible, however just because something's possible doesn't imply that it's true. Anything beyond our observable reality is by default unverifiable and unfalsifiable so long as it wouldn't interfere with our universe. That's why we have the scientific process, to weed out the unlikely and unprovable things and allow the likely things to float to the surface.

Yeah I understand. Ignore my posts.