gun control

[Ravencroft·]

hes annoyed because i put ''le'' in my post

No stuff, that still doesn't answer my question lol.

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[Xealyth]

they should, for our own good

[Oasis]

also if they are banned it wont stop people from still having them, just look at drugs

Well I mean, we "ban" murdering people, but here we are. I guess we should just lift all bans because people will do it anyways. :/

[Darryl McKoy]

No stuff, that still doesn't answer my question lol.

I think he's suggesting that using 'le' in that context is a throwback to the past, similar to saying something to the effect of 'wow that's so 2010'. Still a dumb post though.

[sir dooble]

Banning guns? No. Improved gun control? Definitely.

They're simply too accessible, and there's no reason for them to be. People using them for legitimate purposes can still do so with tighter laws surrounding gun acquisition.

Even in Australia, where most people think guns are 'banned', hunters can still buy guns to hunt, sport shooters can still use them for sport. What we don't have over here is looneys who can easily obtain a gun and go on a massacre.

I have to agree with this.
The UK also sounds like guns are banned, but they're simply controlled more.
Farmers, hunters and sports shooters still have guns (primarily rifles and shotguns, rather than handguns and assault rifles), but they're licensed for it and jump through a lot of hoops to get them.

It's not like guns are alien to us either. Even little old dooble has been clay pidgeon shooting.
But because of our gun control we don't fear gunmen on the streets. We don't have metal detectors in our schools or practice lockdowns. I'm not even afraid of the police, because they don't have guns because they don't face guns.

It's a good system. It works.
And as for us instead having high knife crime, I have a better chance of outrunning a person with a knife than I do a bullet.
As for whether more control could occur in the US, I don't know. I think it is difficult because guns are already so prevalent and there would be a lot of opposition to any changes.

[Harm94]

Improved gun control?

Define improved control? We have background checks, ten day waiting period, ATF tax stamp, ATF transfer forms, registration of handguns.

[XR-7]

I think people should only be able to carry guns around if they go through extensive training and background checks. At that point, they should be able to carry concealed handguns should they have to defend themselves or someone else. I don't really think anyone should be able to carry assault rifles in public though. There is absolutely no reason for it.

[Mule]

I think people should only be able to carry guns around if they go through extensive training and background checks. At that point, they should be able to carry concealed handguns should they have to defend themselves or someone else. I don't really think anyone should be able to carry assault rifles in public though. There is absolutely no reason for it.

Its called an open carry. This happens most in southern towns where if you have been hunting and you want to eat at denny's you dont wanna leave your stuff in the car, and you dont want people to forget with you.

[Nonnel]

yeah the thing about america is that the thing that finally pushed us to revolt against the tyrannical british empire was their trying to take our guns away
we have guns so that if the government turns to stuff, we can revolt again. if real gun control was put in place, the constitution would quite literally be a legal justification for a revolution.

[Mule]

yeah the thing about america is that the thing that finally pushed us to revolt against the tyrannical british empire was their trying to take our guns away
we have guns so that if the government turns to stuff, we can revolt again. if real gun control was put in place, the constitution would quite literally be a legal justification for a revolution.

Holy stuff. I like your opinion.

[Darryl McKoy]

yeah the thing about america is that the thing that finally pushed us to revolt against the tyrannical british empire was their trying to take our guns away
we have guns so that if the government turns to stuff, we can revolt again. if real gun control was put in place, the constitution would quite literally be a legal justification for a revolution.

I really doubt anyone would ever revolt against the government. We've seen some pretty terrible breaches of your liberties already and the majority of people didn't seem to give a stuff.

Americans seem to love the feeling of control and autonomy despite not actually having it.

[sir dooble]

Like what would it even take for you to rise up against the government?
Like, I don't exactly see the armed forces attacking US civilians at the request of the government.

Even if they did it's not like your handguns or even assault rifles are going to be effective against drone strikes :/
That's such a stuffty reason for everyone to have access to guns.

How many dead school children is it worth to be ready for this tyranny that's possibly maybe could kind of happen? 

[Darryl McKoy]

Like what would it even take for you to rise up against the government?
Like, I don't exactly see the armed forces attacking US civilians at the request of the government.

Even if they did it's not like your handguns or even assault rifles are going to be effective against drone strikes :/
That's such a stuffty reason for everyone to have access to guns.

How many dead school children is it worth to be ready for this tyranny that's possibly maybe could kind of happen? 

It seems as long as they have the freedom to buy a gun, walk into a school and murder children, they're content with it happening.

[Harm94]

Even if they did it's not like your handguns or even assault rifles are going to be effective against drone strikes :/
That's such a stuffty reason for everyone to have access to guns.

Drones sure didn't stop the Taliban or any asymmetric combatant for that matter. Other countries are usually the greatest suppliers of weapons to rebels. Their intentions of usually doing that is to give the rebel they favor the most to get into power so they put their influence on.


This missile for example came from an M47 Dragon which is a retired guided anti tank weapon. Iran also received them when relations were good and even produced their own.

when you zoom in you can see English writing instead of Persian. So either the missile was supplied to rebels from the US or it was supplied to Iran then supplied to Shia friendly rebels.

Another example would be the Donbass rebels who have Russian supplied equipment. If a rebellion were to happen in the US, you would probably find weapons supplied from Russia and China to be pretty common quickly into the conflict.

Mexico's drug Cartels are also pretty good at smuggling anything from guns to people over the us border. Just look at all these different types of weapons that have been seized.

[Red Spy]

Completely saying "Ban all the loving guns" is just plain stupid.

It's like the Prohibition:
Banning alcohol didn't get rid of drunks, it just put drunks in jail.


Banning guns would make %60+ of Americans be in the big house. It would also just create another black market for people.

And banning guns wont get ride of violence. People would still kill people.

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