Paris Massacre: 4+ shootings, 3+ kamikaze, 1 hostage taking: Atleast 129 dead

[shitlord]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/10/11/report-92-percent-of-mass-shootings-since-2009-occured-in-gun-free-zones/

congratulations
you didnt disprove anything he said

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[Planr]

The United States has some of the highest rates of gun ownership, but random mass-shootings almost never seem to be stopped by vigilante gunmen. Why is that? Because people are less likely to pull out weapons when law-enforcement is en-route to the scene and expecting to come and shoot an ordinary-looking person with a gun. Nobody wants to try and be a hero just to be killed by the cops while doing it.

I'm fairly certain the reason we don't see civilian intervention in those kinds of incidents is because most mass shootings in the US happen in "gun-free zones", such as schools and universities, where shooters know there are practically no armed individuals around. Furthermore, by the time Police have finally intervened in most historical cases, such as Virginia Tech and Columbine, the shooters had enough time to accomplish their goals to a significant extent.

[Frostbyte]

http://battlefield.wikia.com/wiki/Comrades
(Look at the date)

Terrorists must have been BF3 fans, inb4gamescauseviolence.

[ShadowsfeaR]

I'm fairly certain the reason we don't see civilian intervention in those kinds of incidents is because most mass shootings in the US happen in "gun-free zones", such as schools and universities, where shooters know there are practically no armed individuals around. Furthermore, by the time Police have finally intervened in most historical cases, such as Virginia Tech and Columbine, the shooters had enough time to accomplish their goals to a significant extent.

And then end their own lives, live the cowards they always were.

[SeventhSandwich]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/10/11/report-92-percent-of-mass-shootings-since-2009-occured-in-gun-free-zones/

The 'Crime Prevention Research Center' is neither a journal nor a peer-reviewed source of evidence. Considering that the website, the research, and the 'journal' are operated by the exact same guy, gun-rights advocate John Lott, there's a pretty enormous potential for experimental bias.

He's been called out by countless other academics for egregious experimental problems, but that kind of comes with the territory when you publish research that hasn't been peer-reviewed.

http://www.armedwithreason.com/shooting-down-the-gun-lobbys-favorite-academic-a-lott-of-lies/

I'm fairly certain the reason we don't see civilian intervention in those kinds of incidents is because most mass shootings in the US happen in "gun-free zones", such as schools and universities, where shooters know there are practically no armed individuals around.

There's evidence that most mass-shootings target places that a shooter has a personal connection to, rather than a place that's gun-free. I'm willing to buy that gun-free zones probably don't dissuade shootings, but they aren't causing them either.

I looked online to see whether anyone has brown townyzed the outcomes of mass-shootings that have occurred in locations that allow guns, with armed citizens as bystanders. Turns out, it's pretty hard to find that kind of evidence because the internet is basically flooded with anecdote after anecdote about how "this mass shooting was stopped by this armed citizen" or "this mass shooting was almost made worse by this armed citizen".

Some website called Everytown Research did some similar research, but it suffers from basically the same experimental problems/lack of peer-review as CPRC (except biased against guns, instead of for them). Tomorrow morning, I'll see if I can find the type of study I'm looking for.

[Tayasaurus]

Terrorists must have been BF3 fans, inb4gamescauseviolence.

If i have to listen to Glenn Beck spout off again about videogames i'm going to destroy the world

The 'Crime Prevention Research Center' is neither a journal nor a peer-reviewed source of evidence. Considering that the website, the research, and the 'journal' are operated by the exact same guy, gun-rights advocate John Lott, there's a pretty enormous potential for experimental bias.

He's been called out by countless other academics for egregious experimental problems, but that kind of comes with the territory when you publish research that hasn't been peer-reviewed.

http://www.armedwithreason.com/shooting-down-the-gun-lobbys-favorite-academic-a-lott-of-lies/
There's evidence that most mass-shootings target places that a shooter has a personal connection to, rather than a place that's gun-free. I'm willing to buy that gun-free zones probably don't dissuade shootings, but they aren't causing them either.

I looked online to see whether anyone has brown townyzed the outcomes of mass-shootings that have occurred in locations that allow guns, with armed citizens as bystanders. Turns out, it's pretty hard to find that kind of evidence because the internet is basically flooded with anecdote after anecdote about how "this mass shooting was stopped by this armed citizen" or "this mass shooting was almost made worse by this armed citizen".

Some website called Everytown Research did some similar research, but it suffers from basically the same experimental problems/lack of peer-review as CPRC (except biased against guns, instead of for them). Tomorrow morning, I'll see if I can find the type of study I'm looking for.

Slodging through the bias and bullstuff arguments is the worst on the topic of gun ownership and its prevention of attacks.

[Legoboss]

Remember, no French.

[espio100]

http://battlefield.wikia.com/wiki/Comrades
(Look at the date)

Oh stuff
OH stuff

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never forghetti their delicous spaghetti

[Glass Joe]

never forghetti their delicous spaghetti

wrong country, you're thinking of Italy

[Zharthon]

-ninja edit, needed to fix something-

[Decepticon]

to be honest, i feel a little bad for the refugees in france too

they went there to flee what was going on in where they came from

now what they thought they fled from is happening (or is just happening/happened) where they thought they would be safe

[}]Crazy[{]

wrong country, you're thinking of Italy

sorry

[Planr]

to be honest, i feel a little bad for the refugees in france too

they went there to flee what was going on in where they came from

now what they thought they fled from is happening (or is just happening/happened) where they thought they would be safe

I think its been stated before by people like TAG (who is dealing with the consequences of this crCIA firsthand; here's why, and confirmed by others like Mr.LoL) that the majority of these "refugees" appear to be young muslim men who are just as extremist in their beliefs as the people who committed these terrorist attacks. He wants to move to the United States because of this, because of the death threats against his family and the crime and rape these so-called refugees are bringing with them.
According to what he's observed firsthand, and I also haven't seen anything to the contrary, these refugees deserve no sympathy whatsoever because they believe in Sharia Law, the beheading and stoning of people, treating women like love objects and property, etc.

[Bisjac]

Thats what happens when you help people. They should be sent back to syria and forced to finish thier war and fix thier stuff.