Star Wars Episode 7 Reactions (WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS)

[Swholli]

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[Donnies Catch]

phasma is so hot omfg my favorite character

got this funko pop of her

[Swholli]

You know I also didn't like?

Why did Snoke need to be CG? He could have very easily been a dude in makeup, he did not not need to be CG.

[KickFlow]

Then she'd remember Luke and who he was and not say: "Luke Skywalker? Jedi? I thought they were myths!?"

Luke could have erased her mind of him. Could have kept all the training in her mind though. If mind reading is now a force ability, mind erasing isn't too far fetched.

Secondly, I think you're being very critical of this film. I think the only way to make a 7th starwars movie without EVERYONE freaking out, is by mixing some of the old cast, and some of the new cast. Get the old cast in to show they accept these new characters, and get the new cast a great set up for their own adventures. If we just jumped into the new characters, there would be no development. This is another trilogy, remember. If it was like "oh so rey is a girl that beat kylo ren the first time but he escaped" everyone would be like "who the forget are these people this sucks" or something like that, ya know? I think they did everything perfectly.
Gave a great starwars experience, while setting up a great next movie plot.

[Swholli]

Luke could have erased her mind of him. Could have kept all the training in her mind though. If mind reading is now a force ability, mind erasing isn't too far fetched.

Possibly, but that just seems dumb and I hope that isn't the way they did it

Secondly, I think you're being very critical of this film.

It's what I do.

I think the only way to make a 7th starwars movie without EVERYONE freaking out, is by mixing some of the old cast, and some of the new cast. Get the old cast in to show they accept these new characters, and get the new cast a great set up for their own adventures. If we just jumped into the new characters, there would be no development.

No see, we sacrificed development in order to shoe-horn old characters in. Because we had to devote so much time to the old characters and their dilemma's as well as the new, we ended up losing time we could have had making the new characters feel more authentic. I'm glad the old characters were there as a little send up and callback to the old trilogy, I get it's point. But I don't think it was well utilized in terms of thematic story structure.

I still don't like how quickly Finn turned to the light side, I still don't like how quickly Rey learned to use the force, I still don't like how ill-used captain phasma was, I still don't like how they did a complete retread (I believe the term is "soft reboot" now) of Episode 4.

This is another trilogy, remember. If it was like "oh so rey is a girl that beat kylo ren the first time but he escaped" everyone would be like "who the forget are these people this sucks" or something like that, ya know? I think they did everything perfectly.

You do realize we can have a Star Wars movie with nothing but new characters and still establish who they are and why we should care about them without needing anything from the original trilogy aside from Jedi and Sith, right?

Like, no one knew who Luke Skywalker was at the beginning of Episode 4 and that still turned out pretty okay.

Gave a great starwars experience, while setting up a great next movie plot.

See at the end of the day, you're right. It was a decent experience and it did set up the possibility for a new trilogy well.

But it still could have been a better thought out movie with a stronger and fresher plot, and if the whole point of this movie was just to set up the stakes of the next movie, then we should have started at the next movie. The prequels failed because they were all a setup to the story we actually wanted to see, they became pointless in their own construction. You could watch only Episode 3 and understand everything you need to understand in order to get the backstory of the prequels, Episode 1 and 2 become entirely pointless retroactively.

And if Episode 8 is the main story where stuff starts to get cool and whatever, then I have every right to say Episode 7 wasted my time.

[comr4de]

Whoever wrote the script should've let Finn die.

[KickFlow]

Why is the idea of Luke erasing her mind dumb? It's rather an intelligent idea. Her having the knowledge of where Luke may be hiding, knowing the dark side could capture her and seduce her to the darkside, because they know she had some jedi training, on the planet the empire used to dominate, would be a terrible idea on Lukes part. After all, he already lost his nephew to the darkside.

I don't think we shoe-horned any of them in. It felt like each character from the originals were used only when needed and totally made sense to be used in the film. Han was needed to show the Kylo didn't want to forget around and fully wanted to go to the darkside. Leia was trained in leadership since she was young, it makes sense to lead the resistance. C-3p0 was in it for two seconds, and made sense to be with leia to help out with the resistance. I can't name any other characters that were from the original. Besides Luke, and he was kind of the goal of the film. (sounds familiar, kinda like when Luke had to find an old Jedi master for training to kill to kill the sith, huh. ;](just giving you another reason to hate the film lol))

How do we know Finn wasn't snuck into the First order right after he was born? What if the Resistance had a child that they knew could use the force well, and snuck in and put him in there, knowing that he'll not want to be a fighter, while gaining knowledge of the First Order, again knowing he'll try to escape? Just a theory but it is plausible.

Rey could have had the knowledge of the force before hand and just didn't know how to use it. After all she sure as hell knew how to use the staff in the beginning, so she had some fighting training for lots of years.

It's a starwars movie. It's not really a super serious film. It's to entertain you while giving you a plot to follow. We needed to show how Kylo wasn't too strong and needed training. We needed to see how Rey was just an old scavenger. We needed to see Finn not wanting anything to do with being evil. Episode 7 showed character development and yeah if you jumped into the 8th movie, not knowing who anyone is, you would be complaining that they just gave us new characters and there wasn't any character development. It's continuing the story. it doesn't NEED all new characters for the film. It's just the next part of the story.

[KickFlow]

Whoever wrote the script should've let Finn die.

Now that would be stupid. He would have only served the purpose of letting poe escape and saving rey. Dying in the first film would be really dumb. Especially right after han dying.

[Plethora]

I didn't like how they resurrected the pilot, it adds nothing to the plot and decreases the stakes (also why Arrow isn't the greatest).

It is definitely a valid critique that they've just shuffled stuff from the original trilogy around to make a new movie.  They moved existing characters into the roles of dead ones and mish moshed traits of living ones to create these new ones.

I get the impression that the quick learner chick is Luke's daughter, but there's only spectral evidence for it.  It was obnoxious how quickly she gained mastery over force powers when it took Luke a long time, and then he still sucked.  She, on her own, figures out how to do the jedi mind trick, mind probe, telekinesis, and lightsaber skills (and lets the force take over with the lightsaber by focusing her mind) in the span of like half an hour.

Speaking of that duel, the ground falling away between them when it was over was weak.  She should have been given the ability to cut his head off there and then - whether or not they'd have had her do it.  It's just a lazy way out of what we all knew should have happened.

The peoples' names are also an issue.  I can't remember 3/4 of them and it's been like an hour or so.  I never had this problem with Luke Skywalker or any of the others - heck, I know who Plo Koon and Kit Fisto are, but they used the names of these new characters put together like 6 times in the entire movie, but I do recall that they're all like 3 or 4 letters long so if I could remember them it'd be easy for me to confuse.

All that noted, the dialogue and character interaction in this one were a lot more believable and realistic than in the last three they put out (dialogue was better than some parts of the original trilogy too), and there was no Jar Jar, so they eliminated what I saw as the major flaws of the second trilogy.

Was refreshing to see Han get killed; the invincibility of A list characters is obnoxious.

It was good to have the old cast in there, and though yes in a perfect world they would have played a smaller role, it was good to see them all again.

All told, I thought it was better than the last three they made, which is what really counts, and falls in the middle of the ranking.

[Tumbleweed]

What if the Resistance had a child that they knew could use the force well

I don't think Finn is really too much of a force-sensitive person

[Alternat¡ve]

I didn't like how they resurrected the pilot, it adds nothing to the plot and decreases the stakes (also why Arrow isn't the greatest).

they didn't resurrect him, he never loving died lmaoo he left before finn woke up, he says this in the movie.

The peoples' names are also an issue.  I can't remember 3/4 of them and it's been like an hour or so.  I never had this problem with Luke Skywalker or any of the others - heck, I know who Plo Koon and Kit Fisto are, but they used the names of these new characters put together like 6 times in the entire movie, but I do recall that they're all like 3 or 4 letters long so if I could remember them it'd be easy for me to confuse.

plo koon and kit fistos names are never stated in the movies

[Plethora]

He's effectively resurrected.  We're led to believe he's definitely dead, but nope, he miraculously lived.  I guess it's not super far fetched, but it irks me when they pull stuff like that, and then using him as part of their deus ex machina on the cantina planet is rubbing salt in the wound.

Bad examples then.  Let's try Syfo Dias or Qui Gon Jinn, neither of their names are used with particular frequency, but I can still remember them (granted I've had more time to, but it's a name, I should be able to remember it leaving the film).  Probably just me, but it's bothersome nonetheless.  On an slight tangent, do they name Mace Windu in the moves?

[Alternat¡ve]

He's effectively resurrected.  We're led to believe he's definitely dead, but nope, he miraculously lived.  I guess it's not super far fetched, but it irks me when they pull stuff like that, and then using him as part of their deus ex machina on the cantina planet is rubbing salt in the wound.

its a case of dramatic irony, we know he is still alive but finn doesn't. a resurrection would be seeing him get killed, seeing the body, maybe even have a funeral or some stuff, and then seeing him alive in the next movie.

[Zack]

My first impressions:

Ren is just a case of teenage angst. The only possible reason the empire keeps him is because of his force abilities.
*Bonus points if you counted every time he drew a lightsaber and started smashing stuff 'cuz he got mad. I counted at least three.
**Anyone else totally underwhelmed by his appearance after he first took off his mask?

My mom was so pissed they killed off Han Solo. She is making excuses of how he didn't really die, but I'll take the Walking Dead mindset of "dead until proven not-so."

Even with all the stuff they packed into the movie, it felt short, for reasons a couple people already stated. Mostly that a bit of the character development felt rushed, but I'm no film critic, so I'll stop there.

Me and my dad, when we viewed it (mom and sisters watched separately), waited after the credits to see if there was anything afterwards (spoilers: NONE)
Also, as you can probably tell because of all the CG, there were so many digital artists, around 200~, so damn, lots and lots of CG.

Kinda didn't expect Disney to make it as half good as it was.
I thought the movie was pretty good, frankly.

[Nymph]

its a case of dramatic irony, we know he is still alive but finn doesn't. a resurrection would be seeing him get killed, seeing the body, maybe even have a funeral or some stuff, and then seeing him alive in the next movie.

Yeah I was thinking he wasn't dead, but I wasn't sure