Bear_Tracks trolling Sugar

[Nymph]

You're putting me in a position where I'm going to look bad no matter how I answer, this is what I meant with the whole "loaded question nonsense"

I'm not going to insult sugar like I didn't want to insult doaler. I told doaler that he hasn't changed and instead of trying to convince people he changed, actually start trying to integrate with the forums and move on. I was hoping he would follow my advice and not try to start anything with anyone so he would actually have a chance at foruming.

It was disappointing more than anything when he went back to his old ways and saying anyone but him is to blame is really sending the wrong message.

I understand, and maybe you aren't one of the hypocrites that want to protect sugar and not any other autistic player, but there are people like that, and it's those people that I dislike immensely and can be classified as a white knight.

your question was absolutely stupid. an answer wasnt needed.

It was, I blindly presumed that he was one of the people I was talking about. It did serve a purpose though, and I respect Ike for at least answering it honestly.

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[Mr. Bones]

You also can't say she wouldn't do something, no matter how well you know her.

Yes you can?  She is literally incapable of doing something like that.

[Nymph]

Yes you can?  She is literally incapable of doing something like that.

I'm glad you know that, hell maybe badspot should make you a forum administrator so that you can predict wether someone will forum Self Delete or not.

[IkeTheGeneric]

I'm glad you know that, hell maybe badspot should make you a forum administrator so that you can predict wether someone will forum Self Delete or not.

It's a reasonable assumption that Sugar isn't going to register an account to forum Self Delete and distribute cheating tools

Why are you being so vindictive?

[Nymph]

It's a reasonable assumption that Sugar isn't going to register an account to forum Self Delete and distribute cheating tools

Why are you being so vindictive?

I'm not claiming that she will, only using a theoretical question to get a general answer. Maybe I worded it oddly, but I thought it was obvious that I didn't actually care if she would or wouldn't do it.

[Mr. Bones]

maybe badspot should make you a forum administrator so that you can predict wether someone will forum Self Delete or not.

Again, you can't use "what if" to justify your argument.  Sugar has not only never done these things, but she isn't on the forums even.  She's been in the community for a long time and there is no reason for her to serve as a thread, she never has.  

I'm not claiming that she will, only using a theoretical question to get a general answer. Maybe I worded it oddly, but I thought it was obvious that I didn't actually care if she would or wouldn't do it.

So what, you're saying we should treat Sugar differently because theoretically there is a chance that she could do something bad?

[Nymph]

Again, you can't use "what if" to justify your argument.  Sugar has not only never done these things, but she isn't on the forums even.  She's been in the community for a long time and there is no reason for her to serve as a thread, she never has.  
So what, you're saying we should treat Sugar differently because theoretically there is a chance that she could do something bad?

Look, I get that the argument was stupid, I already said that, but it did serve a purpose and that purpose was to see if Ike was one of the people that would theoretically dismiss sugar if she did something wrong, similar to what happened to doaler. What flew over your brain was that I wasn't saying she would do something like that, only using it to propose an argument.

[XR-7]

I don't really want to get involved here but I think it's worth pointing out that the severity of their spectrum disorders also plays little role in addition to their mannerisms. Sugar quite obviously has one of the most severe cases of autism seen on Blockland but she's friendly and has fun with everyone who wants to play with her, so clearly she's going to have friends to have her back during a drama.

Doaler on the other hand is much more functional. Yes, having social issues with everyone is to be expected. However, he was telling everyone about how he was going to drastically improve and instead he spills spam all over the place and spreads malicious content around. No one likes him for good reason. You'd think that Doaler would have more of sense of right and wrong due to his supposedly increased functionality, but he turns out to just be a pisshead who uses his disability as an excuse to be stupid.

[ABlockOfCheese]

I don't really want to get involved here but I think it's worth pointing out that the severity of their spectrum disorders also plays little role in addition to their mannerisms. Sugar quite obviously has one of the most severe cases of autism seen on Blockland but she's friendly and has fun with everyone who wants to play with her, so clearly she's going to have friends to have her back during a drama.

Doaler on the other hand is much more functional. Yes, having social issues with everyone is to be expected. However, he was telling everyone about how he was going to drastically improve and instead he spills spam all over the place and spreads malicious content around. No one likes him for good reason. You'd think that Doaler would have more of sense of right and wrong due to his supposedly increased functionality, but he turns out to just be a pisshead who uses his disability as an excuse to be stupid.

i don't even think dealer has autism.  I think he is just grade-a troll material

[Maxwell.]

http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=175914.msg4570776#msg4570776

doaler does have autism

[Nizza Deutchsen Man]

when i made this drama it didnt matter if sugar had autism or not

its that shes vulnerable to stuffhead trolling such as caribou's possibly due to her disorder, now please stop hammering eachother, i can say 80% surely that caribou is sitting on the sidelines laughing his ass off

[Clownfish]

caribou mentions yawa to sugar to get a response out of her
this in turn, gets a response out of the forums
caribou plays handicapped to get even more of a rise
a fight breaks out over sugar
caribou stops posting

my god, he's a master of the arts

[Rally]

The reason Sugar has 'white knights' is because she's not actually doing anything loving wrong, it has nothing to do with being a girl or some other arbitrary bullstuff people have come up with to defend their stuffty offensive behavior. The difference between Sugar and 10,000 other spergs who commit forum Self Delete is that Sugar minds her own damn business and doesn't disrupt the community to any imaginable degree on her own mandate. The only drama that comes out of Sugar is people going out of their way to go after her because they heard of her here. Sugar still doesn't care and remains tending to her own business.

You might know a dude named rlcbm who's behavior was very close to Sugar, and he too has a (relatively small) following due to his idiosyncratic, yet harmless, behavior. The reason you don't hear about rlcbm that much is because you don't have droves of loving stuff-stains who think it's perfectly okay to bully disabled people constantly going after him, because he's nowhere near as active as Sugar.

[Lego lad]

shes more vulnerable?
sorry if i sound like a richard but she doesn't have the mental capability to understand insults and most of the time looks like she either ignores them or bans them
still doesn't apply to my question as to why the white knight mobile comes rolling in when someone trolls sugar but whenever someone else gets forgeted nobody cares

I think her attraction to yawa is what makes her vulnerable, i always see people saying things like "sugar yawa went to prison" and such

[Bear_Tracks]

If it were the case where Bear_Tracks were trolling any other person in game who was legitimately confirmed to have autism I guarantee you it would net the same reaction. Believe it or not, this isn't exactly acceptable behavior under any case and the only reason Sugar is brought up so much is because it's the streisand effect in full force. The more people talk about Sugar, the more human scum like Caribou seek her out to mess with her.

The problem with calling other people out for defending Sugar often is that you're putting pressure on people for that sole reason alone. You're assuming the case that Sugar is special somehow and that if literally any other autistic kid was being trolled nobody would care. Hence the "white knight" bullstuff.

You wanna honestly tell me that everyone sticking up for sugar would be fine with any other autistic kid being trolled?

Ike, your times of being her disability rights attorney have become stale and boring. It is clear to see that there was nothing bad said to her in the chat-logs. Either I need eye lenses, or you do. Please show me where I was being mean, or aggressive to her and I'll gladly respond. Otherwise, stop turning me into an international war criminal. I don't appreciate it. There are child enthusiasts and drug addicts on this forum, and you're worrying about me asking Sugar about one of her friends?