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Author Topic: Nation Forge — Iron Desert [1863] — Beware the Ides of March  (Read 188192 times)

map is broken

also neventii, please stop
No. All of you have made legitimate moves and this is reasonable, we're not using special technology, we have good geologists that can spot the terrain.

Have none of you been mining, forget, get a grip.

what are wells that have been used since antiquity

what is gold mining which has been done since the pharaohs

the way Neventii went about doing it is a little strange but claiming that humans didn't have the capability to make wells or see gold in 18 loving 25 is ridiculous.

the real problem here is whether or not swat one says that there is indeed those geological features there. The geographical features and agriculture in my nation post was verified by swat, you have to do the same neventii

both of y'all need to chill out tho, for real. There's no reason to be this hostile
« Last Edit: February 02, 2016, 02:32:29 PM by CypherX »

The soldiers sing to combat the smashing of shields and the like. Cannons prepare grape shot, and infantry ready their weapons.

ZULU

The Emperor orders the construction of an advanced training school, where certain individuals in the Sunyong Imperial Army (SIA) will be trained extensively in rifle and blade handling, as well as multiple forms of martial arts.  These individuals will be assigned to special missions such as the Emperor's personal guard, and tasks related to espionage (they're ninjas, guys).

I can't see the OP map because it's locked up by dropbox


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wear that

wear exactly that

in the desert

when it's noon

why? no reason. also have them walk into the center of the desert

The soldiers sing to combat the smashing of shields and the like. Cannons prepare grape shot, and infantry ready their weapons.

and im actually welsh, this song is my national anthem, and I actually have like the same infantry uniforms.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-lDY02DThk


speaking of resources, lol, this never got replied to
Oh, sorry, my bad.  Anglish settlement goes upriver and begins making use of the land.  Settlement, at some point, is refused by settlers, as reports of a very influential nation lie upstream.  The settlers ask that a fortified military station be put upriver in order to provide protection.  Although the Anglish military is present to some degree in the area, a proper garrison and defendable fortress would be preferred.

Entrepreneurs had not yet found gold, but had found the rumored nation upstream.  They find that the nation has a gold.



The Natives told us, but they would never tell us how they got in there. And it's not hard to tell if gold might be ruining in the veins of the rocks or not, I have been mining about three or four times now and there are ways to tell by the area's mineral composition. You don't need special equipment as much as knowledge of what to look for.

Anyway, are you going to approve it?
Knowledge of mineral composition and this level of geology is not known to our time.  And also, brown townyzing your position in the known world and your population, you would be isolated from much information of the known world.  Your nation is almost entirely situated at elevations over 5,000 feet in a place where rain is extremely scarce all year round, so locating the water table would be very hard, much less getting to it.  Furthermore, your heightened population of 1.5 million wouldn't really be sustainable, would it?  And please stop using the natives as an excuse.  It's just a way to bypass rule 1.

However, with what Cypher said, it seems fair to take into account the duration of the settlement.  On your nation page, if you haven't done so already, it would make more sense if you elaborated on your history.  I can vouch that there are deep water tables, but getting to then is more of a challenge.  Silver is fairly available in the area.  Gold is available, but is not anywhere near considerable abundant.

I would wish that you would ask me personally, as all other users have done, whether resources are available to you.



And herein lies the problem with not having enough rules on your Nation RP.
Not necessarily.  This is minute compared to the problems of the past.  Nation RPs operated like this for years, and it's not something that good moderation can't handle.

Tristan, I'll need you to a bit more aggressive with this kind of stuff in the future.  Thanks.



The soldiers sing to combat the smashing of shields and the like. Cannons prepare grape shot, and infantry ready their weapons.
The natives charge.  Many of them are taken out by the grapeshot, but around 400 reach infantry range.  Infantry begins to fire, but are overtaken by a mere 200.  Up against the recently-recruited and small army of Namian soldiers, they manage to wipe out 87% of the Namian forces in close combat before being wiped out themselves

Military commanders call for an extreme boost to military size and training in Nami, after suffering major damages which in fair observation could only be called a loss.  Many citizens are angry with their government, which seems to make little attempt to protect them.



The explorers from Collineville reach the Sunyong Empire and Romek-Inen.  They offer gifts, but also offer trade once Sonodine allows them to pass through and civil strife is solved.



how much are they demanding
declare martial law
They demand that the law to nationalize farms and to redistribute food be repealed indefinitely, and that a law be put in place to allow for unions.

Martial law is enforced, and many rioters resist military police.  Hundreds across the nation end up dead as the MPs fire into belligerent crowds.



Romek-Inen finds that a few storehouses in the west have been burned and a few peasants butchered.  A partially-burned scrap of the Sonodite flag is found near a burned storehouse.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2016, 03:33:21 PM by SWAT One »

The King takes note of the commander's calls for recruitment, and calls for the same for the country. As for the angry citizens, they are given money for compensation over damages. Tougher border defenses are em-placed so nothing like this can happen again.

Romek-Inen rejects the explorers, now preoccupied with a new threat. Unwilling to deal with multiple Christian nations at once, they are turned away for now.

Wives and children are told to work the fields, fathers and sons say goodbye for now, and the horses are rallied.

Romek-Inen mobilizes its cavalry and light infantry. The troops are issued long guns ideal for maximum accuracy in skirmish combat, along with standard melee weaponry. Defense cannons are placed within the major cities, and offensive ones are primed for travel.



A throwing axe is lodged into the gate of a higher ranking nobleman's estate in Sonodine. Tied to it is a letter.

It is a declaration of war.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2016, 03:59:14 PM by Juncoph »

Knowledge of mineral composition and this level of geology is not known to our time.  And also, brown townyzing your position in the known world and your population, you would be isolated from much information of the known world.  Your nation is almost entirely situated at elevations over 5,000 feet in a place where rain is extremely scarce all year round, so locating the water table would be very hard, much less getting to it.  Furthermore, your heightened population of 1.5 million wouldn't really be sustainable, would it?  And please stop using the natives as an excuse.  It's just a way to bypass rule 1.

However, with what Cypher said, it seems fair to take into account the duration of the settlement.  On your nation page, if you haven't done so already, it would make more sense if you elaborated on your history.  I can vouch that there are deep water tables, but getting to then is more of a challenge.  Silver is fairly available in the area.  Gold is available, but is not anywhere near considerable abundant.
Bypassing rule 1 would suggest I had god modded, which is absolute bull stuff considering that the natives in my area have drawn cave paintings of underground lakes and in their legends. This is absolutely logical to why we would think they exist.

I also didn't realize you could define the mineral composition of my area because you never told me that you decided. So forgive me that you were ambiguous in your OP page.

You also speak of my people as indigenous, we're not, at that time, people did understand in 1825 that where you find certain minerals you are BOUND to find other kinds, and certain minerals in a given area will tend to suggest others in that area.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2016, 03:57:36 PM by Neventii »

Bypassing rule 1 would suggest I had god modded, which is absolute bull stuff considering that the natives in my area have drawn cave paintings of underground lakes and in their legends. This is absolutely logical to why we would think they exist.

I also didn't realize you could define the mineral composition of my area because you never told me that you decided. So forgive me that you were ambiguous in your OP page.

You also speak of my people as indigenous, we're not, at that time, people did understand in 1825 that where you find certain minerals you are BOUND to find other kinds, and certain minerals in a given area will tend to suggest others in that area.
Look, I'll need you to calm down and be reasonable here.  Others have consulted me about resources, and I have told them without reservation.  Why you think you have access to native cave paintings—which may or may not be a practice or part of cultural heritage—is where you stepped over the line, and it is then that you violated rule 1, which also covers "fabricating ludicrous numbers and statistics out of nowhere".  I had hoped that this implied more strongly that players could not fabricate circumstances for strategic resources of their own volition, so yes, I am sorry for being unclear, however, clever manipulation of the rules will not go unpunished.  Ask and you shall recieve; it's not that hard of a concept.

As for my lack of response, Tristan addressed you first, so I was leaving it to him.  If you requested me more directly, then I can address it.  Beating around the bush won't do you any good.

I'm just asking that you cooperate with moderators a bit more.  That's all.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2016, 04:11:19 PM by SWAT One »

all y'all need to chill

The joint-training units arrive at the site of Nami's military disaster and turn back to the outpost.