Author Topic: This generation and politics  (Read 3954 times)

we had voters registration last week and like 3/4 of the entire student population refused to register.
um... that's pretty good
lol

My healthcare, student loans, education enrollment and all that good stuff are already electronic via a DigiD. I'd give 10 stuffs less if someone voted in my name by hacking instead of you know, ending my healthcare insurance or stealing 1000 euros a month in student loan money.
And when corporations or even other countries hijack your elections in their favour, you won't care.

You can't call for direct democracy and demand that your vote matters and then not defend it.

And when corporations or even other countries hijack your elections in their favour, you won't care.

You can't call for direct democracy and demand that your vote matters and then not defend it.
I'm just saying much more stuff that directly impacts my day-to-day life is already done electronically. The framework is there, it's been this way for quite some time now.

It's more the winner-takes-all system I'm against


i don't think direct democracy is a good thing because, given all the crazies out there in the would, do you really want to give everyone a voice

I am really worried about this generation and politics, i say this because we had voters registration last week and like 3/4 of the entire student population refused to register.  Okay i get that politics is scary and you're only in high school but COME ON.  Can you imagine what the presidential election will be like if this trend continues? Voting is important if you don't want a dictator.

It seems more and more people are also separating themselves from society into video games and other fantasies (MLP,FNAF) and this isn't good.  I was watching a live stream of Minecraft and he said "i didn't vote because politics doesn't matter" i cringed then i turned off the stream.  Without politics you wouldn't be able to live stream

/discuss

I disagree with you on a fundamental level for a few reasons, and feel free to prove me wrong if I am.

Voting is considered a right, but in being classified as such, isn't a responsibility. Thinking of it as such is rather silly. Whether to vote/for whom the vote shall be cast is in the end determined by the individual, as it is not required of them to vote in the first place, though the option is there should they so choose.

I also disagree with you in your implication that there's an inverse correlation between voter turnout and the chances of an absolute dictatorship. Personally I'd be more afraid of the "bread and circus" trend I've noticed. The bread and circus is a dangerous trend, as it effectively prevents a large portion of the population from caring about politics, as long as the handouts keep coming in.

Perhaps an even bigger fear that I hold is the sheer lack of information displayed by voters from many walks of life. It doesn't matter if one is old or young, black, white, red, Protestant, anything really. What matters in the end is the level of information voters have on the candidates and their platforms as well as the pre-existing machine they're slotting into. If voting is a right, think of keeping informed as a prerequisite to exercising that right, that in my opinion, should be in place. Just as if one wishes to exercise their second amendment right to bear arms, firearm safety courses, background checks, and permit applications are due. But with voting and the second amendment, they're rights and not duties, and being afraid of people not exercising them is pretty silly. It's more sensible to be afraid of people abusing these rights, at least in my own thinking.

It's true that voting can be seen as more of a right than a responsibility, though it should most definitely be treated as the latter. This is the person who's in charge of making the decisions that are more than likely going to change your life in one way or another. I think it's pretty important that you have a say in the choices that this person makes. Not even just the president either; every seat holder. Participating in government and staying informed really is one of the most important parts of being a citizen. Of any country, I'd wager.

It's true that voting can be seen as more of a right than a responsibility, though it should most definitely be treated as the latter. This is the person who's in charge of making the decisions that are more than likely going to change your life in one way or another. I think it's pretty important that you have a say in the choices that this person makes. Not even just the president either; every seat holder. Participating in government and staying informed really is one of the most important parts of being a citizen. Of any country, I'd wager.
I don't disagree with you, and voting should be held as a civic duty, but forced participation could be potentially disastrous. I'd rather have fewer voters coming out making somewhat more informed decisions than every single eligible individual being forced to vote and some making uninformed decisions.

The US doesn't need more voters. It needs more informed voters.

The general populace is prone to making stupid voting decisions.

The electoral college is prone to making slightly less but still stupid voting decisions.

I say we let robots do the voting.

Impartial party, that judges based on who would be a most effective leader. Not some turdbag buttknapsack who just gets a ton of popularity and kisses everyone's ass to get into office.

Solves every problem at once. Unless the robots vote for themselves. Then we're forgeted.

If you don't get that my post is basically a joke, it is. I'm just kidding around. Please don't take me seriously.

I don't disagree with you, and voting should be held as a civic duty, but forced participation could be potentially disastrous. I'd rather have fewer voters coming out making somewhat more informed decisions than every single eligible individual being forced to vote and some making uninformed decisions.
By treated, I mean on a societal level, not a federal level. Forced voting pretty much breaks a few of our government's foundations, but we can definitely agree that people need to take this stuff seriously.

By treated, I mean on a societal level, not a federal level. Forced voting pretty much breaks a few of our government's foundations, but we can definitely agree that people need to take this stuff seriously.
Completely agreed. I think that the public should be reminded how to access impartial information on the platforms of the candidates as well, and to think critcally.

not sure about anyone else but this is my first time seeing kingdaro since he done that game dev stream

It seems more and more people are also separating themselves from society into video games and other fantasies (MLP,FNAF) and this isn't good.
You are an utter handicap.