POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

[Dreams_Of_Cheese]

Heavy left Bias.

Gee, thanks. No further elaboration then? No sourcing for what makes them biased, examples of that bias, just "They're biased so they're liars?"

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[Nonnel]

Heavy left Bias.

So everything from those sources is wrong because you don't agree with them. Smart.

[Karl Marx]

kimon have you ever considered shutting the forget up about politics for a bit

[Deus Ex]

Gee, thanks. No further elaboration then? No sourcing for what makes them biased, examples of that bias, just "They're biased so they're liars?"

Here's a good video breaking down an example of Salon intentionally misrepresenting things in order to push a narrative. I can't speak on the Atlantic, but Salon is a verified bullstuff factory. Most of the articles that come from it are basically anti-Annoying Orange circlejerking on par with CNN and WaPo.

but really, i'm sure you can agree at least in principle that individual articles should be evaluated by their own merit rather than snopes as a whole being automatically broadly discounted.

Yeah, that's true, I'd take articles at their individual merit, but when it comes to politics I don't think Snopes can be trusted. If it's unintentional disinformation, or they made statements before more facts come out that disproves what they stated, that's fine, but I haven't seen them do any kind of retraction on things like that. Like I said earlier, when it comes to things like religion or some internet meme or whatever, sure, Snopes is credible. But lately with politics? Not so much.

So everything from those sources is wrong because you don't agree with them. Smart.

You guys do the exact same thing with any "alt-right" sources so why even make this statement

[Drydess]

the alt right is objectively untrustworthy, same goes for communist or other super far left sources

[torin²]

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i like how every time you told to shut up your response is always some ironic meme image

[Nonnel]

I'm saying he should read it before he accuses it of bias. Most articles have at least an inkling of truth.

[Deus Ex]

the alt right is objectively untrustworthy, same goes for communist or other super far left sources

Except that it doesn't matter what your ideology is as long as you're stating facts. But since no one (including myself) trusts the other side to represent reality properly, why even bother? I'd post a source from the Daily Stormer as long as I can verify what they're saying. Same goes for Salon or WaPo. Every now and then they manage to stuff out a decent article, but those seem like opinion pieces that they let anyone publish rather than writers they've actually hired. People who get their information from cnn are as handicapped as people who get their information from CNN or MSNBC.

I'm saying he should read it before he accuses it of bias. Most articles have at least an inkling of truth.

That's true. I just skimmed through the Atlantic article and I didn't see anything objectionable. Looks like the author was just reporting on what was said in the memo by the NSC Staffer. Whether or not they agree with it is left ambiguous. In fact, I'd say this is a good example of someone just reporting facts.

"An NSC Staffer Is Forced Out Over a Controversial Memo
The document charges that globalists, Islamists, and other forces within and outside the government are subverting President Annoying Orange’s agenda."

I have no idea how Kimon managed to get "NCS Staffer writes memo about Obama being controlled by Muslim/globalist shadow government" out of this article, but as I said earlier I'm not responding to any more of his stuff directly because he's either trolling or actually handicapped and not to be taken seriously as opposed to someone I am simply in disagreement with most of the time like Ike.

[Karl Marx]

i like how every time you told to shut up your response is always some ironic meme image

I like how every time I cast a hex the blood god shaves a year off of your life

[torin²]

I like how every time I cast a hex the blood god shaves a year off of your life

have you tried shutting the forget up
i really dont understand how youre still here

[PhantOS]

You guys do the exact same thing with any "alt-right" sources so why even make this statement

alt-right sources are as unreliable as buzzfeed, a similarly narrative-pushing view-garnering news bullstuff site. according to master matthew, if less than 80% of the site isn't constantly slandering hillary clinton, it's not a reliable source

[Karl Marx]

have you tried shutting the forget up

[Drydess]

Except that it doesn't matter what your ideology is as long as you're stating facts. But since no one (including myself) trusts the other side to represent reality properly, why even bother? I'd post a source from the Daily Stormer as long as I can verify what they're saying. Same goes for Salon or WaPo. Every now and then they manage to stuff out a decent article, but those seem like opinion pieces that they let anyone publish rather than writers they've actually hired. People who get their information from cnn are as handicapped as people who get their information from CNN or MSNBC.

if sites like cnn or the daily stormer started posting any facts and useful information without an alt right slant id be happy to include them in my feed, but at the moment it's honestly just a waste of effort to look at their sites. i stopped following cnn and nbc around the start of he Annoying Orange campaign because all of it was anti Annoying Orange bs that's been manipulated or interpreted in some way that skews the truth

[Deus Ex]

alt-right sources are as unreliable as buzzfeed, a similarly narrative-pushing view-garnering news bullstuff site. according to master matthew, if less than 80% of the site isn't constantly slandering hillary clinton, it's not a reliable source

How do you "slander" Hillary Clinton by reporting the truth? I mean I guess I can understand if you mean articles where they outright claim she's a murderer or something but if they're just reporting facts that are damaging to her, that's not slander.
The problem is that every right-wing news source gets flagged as alt-right in order to dismiss it entirely when that's simply not even the case. I can grant you Breitbart and cnn and I guess the Daily Stormer? But other sites that might be right-leaning shouldn't be outright dismissed because of those three. While I feel safe completely disregarding reporting from CNN, WaPo and MSNBC that doesn't mean I'm going to completely ignore other sources that might be left-leaning.

[PhantOS]

How do you "slander" Hillary Clinton by reporting the truth?

"NEW BOMBSHELL! will ruin CORRUPT HILLARYS CAREER! country SHOCKED!"
'its not slander if its the truth' doesn't work in a world of opinionated politics. of course, the ones reporting on like, the deplorables incident or other mishaps aren't necessarily slander, but the automatically generated clickbait titles on how hillary plans to nuke the entire world isn't necessarily the most trustworthy

I can grant you Breitbart and cnn and I guess the Daily Stormer?

yes, these are the exact sites that master matthew checks on the daily. slant doesn't hurt sites credibility, but the clickbait attack-a-candidate-and-get-money type news that just exists only to get as much attention as possible are not credible.