POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

[Køtt]

also no offense, but why are you throwing a needless subtle ad hominem here with your previous post? i can literally reword it and say "antifa's bad and all, but most of this hate's coming from the people who support Annoying Orange to presidency!" and it may as well be that message in your post. that's what i'm getting so far. what does it literally have to do with anything? not every republican has supported Annoying Orange and would even prefer someone with more experience.

do you mind at least clarifying before you stupidly stuffpost like this or do i just have to ignore you like always

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[Anthony Fuckstick]

ah yes the democrats, famed for freeing the slaves and writing the civil rights act

[otto-san]

do you mind at least clarifying before you stupidly stuffpost like this or do i just have to ignore you like always

i don't really think it was directly relevant to what you were sayin, but it kinda speaks for itself. hindsight is 20/20 and looking back, most people are probably going to tell you that the civil rights protests of the 60s were mostly justified, appropriate, and effective. during that time period, however, public outlook was much like how we view protests from groups like antifa and BLM today. it lends itself to the conclusion that mass protest is never appreciated by the public, regardless of the context, during the moment, because protests are inherently disruptive to the status quo. they have to be.

the FBI even had a history of trying to undermine and attack king, who is now fairly unanimously hailed as a model activist. needless to say, he wasn't very popular back then either.

it's not unlikely that we'd be experiencing the same situation in modern times

[Anthony Fuckstick]

comparing the civil rights protests to blm and antifa is hilarious

[otto-san]

comparing the civil rights protests to blm and antifa is hilarious

they're comparable in the sense that they are both protests and they were both largely unfavorable during the time. that is all i said to clarify what i thought leisuresuit was getting at

[TheChazzyC]

stuffty liberals like you are worse than right libertarians lmao

what? So you think that Antifa ISNT for terrorism?

[Køtt]

it lends itself to the conclusion that mass protest is never appreciated by the public, regardless of the context, during the moment, because protests are inherently disruptive to the status quo. they have to be.

so he's basically strawmanning my argument towards antifa and i only hate it because it's a mass protest, while making up some completely irrelevant example of a mass protest from the 60's?

loving great

[otto-san]

so he's basically strawmanning my argument towards antifa and i only hate it because it's a mass protest, while making up some completely irrelevant example of a mass protest from the 60's?

loving great

i don't think that's what it was but i'm not going to try and speak on his behalf. i think it's more likely though that it was just a suggestion that, since there is a historical precedent for highly important landmark protest movements to be stigmatized and disfavored by the public, it's not unlikely that the same thing is happening now. i would agree that it wasn't entirely relevant at least to what was quoted though

[Anthony Fuckstick]

they're comparable in the sense that they are both protests and they were both largely unfavorable during the time. that is all i said to clarify what i thought leisuresuit was getting at

well the public response compared to the stuff in leisure's posts and today are completely different. the gist i was getting from that chart was that people thought the protesters doing outlandish stuff was gonna hurt their credibility, which is completely different than people denouncing people destroying property and assaulting/killing people in the name of communism. the only reason i could think of him bringing up a stupid chart like that is to say 'yeah it's like the civil rights protests guys cmon haha'

[Foxscotch]

what does this mean

it doesn't have to mean anything as long as it sounds vaguely insulting

[Køtt]

deus ex is a poor insult generator

someone fix him please

[Anthony Fuckstick]

i'd imagine it's like the communist version of a starbucks liberal blogger or whatever

[otto-san]

well the public response compared to the stuff in leisure's posts and today are completely different. the gist i was getting from that chart was that people thought the protesters doing outlandish stuff was gonna hurt their credibility, which is completely different than people denouncing people destroying property and assaulting/killing people in the name of communism. the only reason i could think of him bringing up a stupid chart like that is to say 'yeah it's like the civil rights protests guys cmon haha'

the same stuff happened in the 60s and earlier though. we just don't remember that era for those things, we remember it for the good it achieved. also, didn't antifa form as a reaction to the Annoying Orange administration? idk if it's evolved since then or something but it seemed pretty clear to me that it was a movement against the further-right-than-usual gaining power

[Anthony Fuckstick]

the same stuff happened in the 60s and earlier though. we just don't remember that era for those things, we remember it for the good it achieved.

if antifa achieves anything good i'll cut my richard off

also, didn't antifa form as a reaction to the Annoying Orange administration?

i thought antifa came over from germany or some place in europe, because i heard about riots over there before it was a huge thing over here. And stuff like this:

[otto-san]

my prediction is that this'll probably all collapse into some kind of series of reforms that establishes a new status quo and makes a new peace for however long it lasts. maybe we'll even end divided government for some time. hope we do it without going to war lol xd