POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

[Cappytaino]

ok google show me not evil rich people

Does wealth somehow make people evil in your eyes? Or is everyone just inherently evil with wealth giving them the means to express their evil to a greater degree?

[Ad Bot]

[Foxscotch]

Does wealth somehow make people evil in your eyes? Or is everyone just inherently evil with wealth giving them the means to express their evil to a greater degree?

more like, becoming rich requires some degree of evil

[Deus Ex]

Interannual Anti-Intellectualism

[Nonnel]

bill gates is ok actualy

a lot/all of their parts suppliers used chinese sweatshop labor but it's good that he's giving back by putting money into eradicating malaria and into clean water

Does wealth somehow make people evil in your eyes? Or is everyone just inherently evil with wealth giving them the means to express their evil to a greater degree?

neither. it's totally possible to have billions of dollars and not be a bad person, but the tactics necessary to get billions of dollars require exploiting people.

[Deus Ex]

People were born to be used
It's not our fault China pays their workers stuff

[Red Spy]

more like, becoming rich requires some degree of evil

so is warren buffet satan to you or what

[Foxscotch]

so is warren buffet satan to you or what

don't imagine most of his money could've been made making decisions that harm people, so probably not

[Red Spy]

bill gates is the real starfish then right

[Foxscotch]

yeah earlier in his life he was definitely not a great guy

[Cappytaino]

neither. it's totally possible to have billions of dollars and not be a bad person, but the tactics necessary to get billions of dollars require exploiting people.

you're making the assumption that capitalism is inherently a zero-sum game in which wealth is limited and one's acquisition of said wealth requires taking it from others, which is absurd. If I go to work and get paid, I'm not stealing the money from my employer and they're not stealing my labor from me. It's all consensual. Look at how bank loans work as an example of how wealth can be generated through simply managing money.

You certainly don't have to be evil to make money. Wealth is just a numerical representation of power and influence, and having said power and influence is what can turn people bad. Wealth is only one such way to power, however. There are many ways to consolidate power other than wealth.

[Tactical Nuke]

no cappy we need to kill jeff bezos right loving now

[Cappytaino]

no cappy we need to kill jeff bezos right loving now

I don't know about Bezos as much, but I've heard from a few people that working at Amazon fulfillment centers is a living hell due to a lot of really sketchy/borderline illegal practices by management, long hours, and like 20 miles of walking per day. I can't personally verify this, but it sounds plausible because working in logistics for an operation of that size just sounds like a nightmare

[Nonnel]

you're making the assumption that capitalism is inherently a zero-sum game in which wealth is limited and one's acquisition of said wealth requires taking it from others, which is absurd. If I go to work and get paid, I'm not stealing the money from my employer and they're not stealing my labor from me. It's all consensual.

Well first, it's not inherently stealing. The problem is when the manager is allocating himself vast amounts of money over his workers.
Also the problem with consent in this case is that you have to work or starve. That's coercion, not consent.

no cappy we need to kill jeff bezos right loving now

Worst possible case lmao
Amazon workers are underpaid and overworked and I've heard all over that conditions are awful

[Heitmeyer²]

I don't know about Bezos as much, but I've heard from a few people that working at Amazon fulfillment centers is a living hell due to a lot of really sketchy/borderline illegal practices by management, long hours, and like 20 miles of walking per day. I can't personally verify this, but it sounds plausible because working in logistics for an operation of that size just sounds like a nightmare

Completely believable to me. Especially around holidays, oh my lord..

[Red Spy]

Also the problem with consent in this case is that you have to work or starve. That's coercion, not consent.

you can always just sit on that welfare you love so much