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whats your solution? do nothing?

This is like fighting a house fire by pissing on it and then getting confused when someone points out the obvious futility of your effort

If everyone pitches in and pisses on the fire then it will go out. It's like voting- if everyone votes it makes a difference, but some people won't vote because they think they can't make a difference themselves. Then a libertarian like you would go over to them and shame them for not voting, probably saying they aren't a real American

Full circle
« Last Edit: February 22, 2018, 01:50:22 PM by PhantOS »

thats the same logic as not voting, which is dumb. if you can do something about it, why not do it? are you saving your piss for something else?


how can a single ant build a colony

how can a single molecule poison you

how can a single taxpayer fund a war

how can a single miner dig tonnes of ore daily

how can a single voter change the outcome of an election

anyone seeing a pattern?

how can a single dorito hold so much bold flavor

anyone seeing a pattern?

whats your solution? do nothing?

okay here's the tactical nuke way to stop gun violence in general

1. Gun Violence Restraining Orders (GVROs)

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/02/gun-control-republicans-consider-grvo/

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While there are various versions of these laws working their way through the states (California passed a GVRO statute in 2014, and it went into effect in 2016), broadly speaking they permit a spouse, parent, sibling, or person living with a troubled individual to petition a court for an order enabling law enforcement to temporarily take that individual’s guns right away. A well-crafted GVRO should contain the following elements (“petitioners” are those who seek the order, “the respondent” is its subject):

1. It should limit those who have standing to seek the order to a narrowly defined class of people (close relatives, those living with the respondent);
2. It should require petitioners to come forward with clear, convincing, admissible evidence that the respondent is a significant danger to himself or others;
3. It should grant the respondent an opportunity to contest the claims against him;
4. In the event of an emergency, ex parte order (an order granted before the respondent can contest the claims), a full hearing should be scheduled quickly — preferably within 72 hours; and
5. The order should lapse after a defined period of time unless petitioners can come forward with clear and convincing evidence that it should remain in place.

TL;DR if your family thinks you're unstable they can petition the government to temporarily suspend your right to bear arms and if there's evidence that there is a problem with you you will be unable to buy/own guns as per the law until you get better

2. Project Exile

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Exile
https://www.crimesolutions.gov/ProgramDetails.aspx?ID=413

mainly deals with gang violence but if you are found to have a gun that you are not allowed to have (mostly due to you being a convicted criminal) you get five years in jail immediately
under this, in Richmond VA where it was being tested, homicides were halved in a decade and there was also a sharp decline in robberies

3. Public schools/workplaces, security guards, and funding

pretty simple, if a school or a building that is publicly owned/funded does not have at least one armed security guard, their funding gets docked until they do
any privately owned thing does not have to follow this but the appeal of having a security guard will probably get to them and they'll hire one too

4. Allow the teachers that want to carry and that feel like they can carry to carry

duh

5. Harsher sentences for government officials loving up

people in the government who don't catch glaring tips like in this case or who just forget up with paperwork like with the texas shooter should not just be fired, they should be harshly tried for criminal negligence
this has the bonus effect of cleaning up the FBI's act in addition to stopping potential Hardcore Gamers

this is all I have so far but it'll do a lot better than everything that has been proposed by democrats

All that nonsense, just so they won't take your toys away

All that nonsense, just so they won't take your toys away
dismissing a a valid point wont get you far

All that nonsense, just so they won't take your toys away
ladies and gentlemen, liberal Deus ex

All that nonsense, just so they won't take your toys away

How about you put effort into a better plan?

If everyone pitches in and pisses on the fire then it will go out.

No

okay let's go in depth

elaborate

the link isn't working, but as per the washington post's log of mass shootings, the vast majority of Hardcore Gamers are 21 or over

you can make a bump stock out of literally anything and in fact you don't need a bump stock to fire an AR-15 like a bump stock would allow you to
"elaborate" he'll be adding better regulations regarding background checks and mental health/stability
"the link isn't working, but as per the washington post's log of mass shootings, the vast majority of Hardcore Gamers are 21 or over" key words the vast majority---why would a <21 y/o be buying a gun anyways
"you can make a bump stock out of literally anything and in fact you don't need a bump stock to fire an AR-15 like a bump stock would allow you to" just because you can make a bumpstock doesn't mean it shouldn't be extremely easy to buy. people are lazy
by your logic we should allow the sale of bombs on amazon because it's already incredibly easy to make an effective one on your own. again why would you need a bump stock in the first place? self defense? hunting? both of those would be laughable if that's actually why

there is zero reason for a bump stock to be buyable other than fun, and frankly as a person that likes taking a trip to the range ardently id rather prevent some deaths than have a bit more fun
« Last Edit: February 22, 2018, 03:22:42 PM by Drydess »


"elaborate" he'll be adding better regulations regarding background checks and mental health/stability

yeah but what specifically
I listed the exact legislation that would be passed, he didn't

"the link isn't working, but as per the washington post's log of mass shootings, the vast majority of Hardcore Gamers are 21 or over" key words the vast majority---why would a <21 y/o be buying a gun anyways

idk, ask sheepocalypse

"you can make a bump stock out of literally anything and in fact you don't need a bump stock to fire an AR-15 like a bump stock would allow you to" just because you can make a bump stock doesn't mean it shouldn't be extremely easy to buy. people are lazy
by your logic we should allow the sale of bombs on amazon because it's already incredibly easy to make an effective one on your own.

I mean they do sell actual smoke/paint grenades on ebay and those are pretty much bombs

again why would you need a bump stock in the first place? self defense? hunting? both of those would be laughable if that's actually why

there is zero reason for a bump stock to be buyable other than "muh guns"

why do you need an 18-wheeler in the first place? cargo? driving? both of those would be laughable if that's actually why
there is zero reason for an 18-wheeler to be buyable other than "muh trucks"