POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

[LeisureSuit912]

this video is great
if anyone is actually still supporting hillary, they should watch this

Hillary supporters are unbearable. What bothers me about them is how they always say "it's her turn, she's entitled to the presidency." Regardless of what she's done, it's always about how qualified she is to be president only because she was married to Bill Clinton. Any criticism of her is just conspiracy theories from sanders supporters or "right wing nuts" who don't want a woman in the White House.

Legitimately, I've been on several political forums and whenever somebody criticizes hillary her supporters jump on it like "you're just salty because a WOMAN is gonna be our next president, ya forgetin loveist" Makes me want to shoot myself.

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[otto-san]

well i'm not gonna lie there aren't many sources outside of googling around for social media posts by black people that support Annoying Orange.

which is probably a good example of a time where it might be better to have no source than a shaky one, or to just leave the point alone entirely

Hillary supporters are unbearable. What bothers me about them is how they always say "it's her turn, she's entitled to the presidency." Regardless of what she's done, it's always about how qualified she is to be president only because she was married to Bill Clinton. Any criticism of her is just conspiracy theories from sanders supporters or "right wing nuts" who don't want a woman in the White House.

Legitimately, I've been on several political forums and whenever somebody criticizes hillary her supporters jump on it like "you're just salty because a WOMAN is gonna be our next president, ya forgetin loveist" Makes me want to shoot myself.

i've never heard any of this from any hillary supporter i've ever met or seen online. most people who i've seen just say they prefer her over Annoying Orange. i'd say it's just tumblr sjw nonsense but even tumblr hates her so idk who that leaves

[Ipquarx]

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I'm willing to settle for Clinton even though some of her integrity is in question. If other people share the same view, all the Bernie supporters should eventually gravitate towards Clinton.

Some? She's an outright criminal. Her corruption and incompetence runs so deep it's not even funny.

[SeventhSandwich]

Some? She's an outright criminal.

I mean, people say this, but the State Department has all of her emails, including those that were previously 'deleted'. If she did destroy confidential government information, why haven't they indicted her? You either have to rely on increasingly tenuous conspiracy theories, or accept the fact that it was a political gaffe - not a crime.

[Red Spy]

i'd say it's just tumblr sjw nonsense but even tumblr hates her so idk who that leaves

You know it's bad when even the sjws hate a Hillary

[SeventhSandwich]

but i doubt he's going to go out of his way to find several when he could just link one and people could make inferences from that

And in turn, I can point out why that's completely ridiculous reasoning. Guess we've gone full circle here.

[otto-san]

You know it's bad when even the sjws hate a Hillary

lol

most of those dudes will probably not vote at all or vote for her anyway since bernie p much without question isn't the nominee. of course my area of tumblr can't be representative of the whole, i haven't seen anything but negativity toward her when i do see something about her

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And in turn, I can point out why that's completely ridiculous reasoning. Guess we've gone full circle here.

I suppose it's unfair to assume everyone is aware of the relatively small but present supporter-base of blacks when they receive little to no coverage from mainstream media, at least from what I've seen. You also removed a portion of the sentence that makes the entire point more reasonable.

[Ipquarx]

I mean, people say this, but the State Department has all of her emails, including those that were previously 'deleted'. If she did destroy confidential government information, why haven't they indicted her? You either have to rely on increasingly tenuous conspiracy theories, or accept the fact that it was a political gaffe - not a crime.

And the emails aren't the only thing she's done, despite that being a big part of it, including it being confirmed that her classified emails used for loving drone strikes, which she used through an unsecure phone despite being ordered to use a secure phone to prevent hacking, (Yes, she even dealt with the drones strikes over her insecure phone. The incompetence is real.) which then was promptly hacked and read by at least one person (who now has made a plea deal and has immunity), probably a lot more, (probably Russia) had her emails run through a third party company without security clearance completely viewable by ordinary citizens or other hackers, (URL at https://www.yahoo.com/news/expert-clinton-emails-could-compromised-third-party-spam-024604076.html ) are confirmed to have put classified US operations in danger. Every single one of those things is a completely seperate instance of complete incompetence and several laws broken each.

And then there's a whole bunch of shady and illegal stuff like fradulent activity from the Clinton Foundation, having been "looking into" releasing her transcripts for over 126 days as of this post, having the most fake twitter followers of ANY candidate, and other stuff I don't have time to look up right now.

It's so plainly clear that she broke a multitude of different laws, and the FBI knows this. The FBI leadership is mostly republican right now too, so you know they hate her, which is why they're more than likely taking their time to make sure she can't wiggle her way out of an indictment. After all, it's already confirmed that it is a criminal investivation.

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i'm hearing from a lot of my friends saying that when Annoying Orange gets elected they will move out of the country

it's just getting pathetic at this point, even though im not fond of Annoying Orange or hillary, it's still just pathetic

[otto-san]

the e-mail issues are a problem that have existed in the state department for a while, even before clinton was SoS. it's a problem, but not necessarily one unique to her (source). that's not said to minimize the issue, it's just to put it into a different perspective: the state department has been loving up for a while

don't know a lot about the clinton foundation or things like that. maybe clinton is a criminal, maybe not, all i know is that i don't want the policies Annoying Orange is advocating for, and in the event that some of those things happen, i would not be happy.

[Ipquarx]

the e-mail issues are a problem that have existed in the state department for a while, even before clinton was SoS. it's a problem, but not necessarily one unique to her (source). that's not said to minimize the issue, it's just to put it into a different perspective: the state department has been loving up for a while

Yep, they've been loving up for a while, but this instance is particularly heinously bad. It's just too much to ignore anymore.

[otto-san]

Yep, they've been loving up for a while, but this instance is particularly heinously bad. It's just too much to ignore anymore.

ye defo. i bet you the next SoS will probably be under much stricter scrutiny, and will most likely make sure not to end up in clinton's steps lol

[LeisureSuit912]

The emails are an issue and she should be punished for that, but unfortunately the Obama endorsement probably means he knows nothing's going to happen.
Both Hillary and Annoying Orange have a huge honesty problem (Annoying Orange's a fraud who can't keep promises and literally switches positions within days), and I already can't trust politicians. I just hate that both of the main presidential candidates are possible criminals.

[SeventhSandwich]

And the emails aren't the only thing she's done, despite that being a big part of it, including it being confirmed that her classified emails used for loving drone strikes,

That seems like a misleading summary of the article.

The 2011 and 2012 emails were sent via the "low side" -government slang for a computer system for unclassified matters

The emails, which did not mention the "CIA," "drones" or details about the militant targets, were written within the often-narrow time frame in which State Department officials had to decide whether or not to object to drone strikes before the CIA pulled the trigger, the officials said, according to the Journal.

So in other words, she exchanged unclassified emails regarding vague details about drone strikes. That doesn't sound criminal to me, and clearly it doesn't to the State Department either.

which she used through an unsecure phone despite being ordered to use a secure phone to prevent hacking, (Yes, she even dealt with the drones strikes over her insecure phone. The incompetence is real.) which then was promptly hacked and read by at least one person (who now has made a plea deal and has immunity), probably a lot more,

This is a fair criticism, but I don't think that it's a crime for a government official to own an insecure phone. Correct me if I'm wrong, since this isn't my area of expertise. It doesn't help to show her competence as a leader, but that's definitely not enough to sway me to vote for Annoying Orange.

had her emails run through a third party company without security clearance completely viewable by ordinary citizens or other hackers, (URL at https://www.yahoo.com/news/expert-clinton-emails-could-compromised-third-party-spam-024604076.html ) are confirmed to have put classified US operations in danger.

I don't understand this article. They're claiming that government officials have identified her emails as 'top secret', but that would definitely result in an indictment since transferring classified documents over personal email is a felony.