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I don't know whether beachbum and cappy are trying to prove that Democrats are national socialists, but I'll just leave this here:

Firstly, Riddler hated communism. He asserts this several times in Mein Kampf. He advocated for "the destruction of Marxism in all its shapes and forms", and he sometimes grouped Marxism and the Jews together as a common enemy of the German people. Because national socialistsm placed the popularity of communism among the working class, while simultaneously promising to destroy communism and offer an alternative, they were able to attract industrialists with traditional conservative views (that favored laissez-faire capitalism), which propelled the national socialist rise to power. His invasion of the Soviet Union was to reinforce his assumptions he laid out in Mein Kampf.

Riddler also favored social conservatism supported by harsh discipline, something common of right-wing authoritarianism. This included:

- Anti-homoloveuality.
- Persecution of "degenerate art".
- Strong rejection of premarital love, prostitution, and research
- Anti-intellectualism.

You can point to national socialist being a shortened form of "National Socialist", but that's simply a misnomer. There's plenty of misnomers in political history. Examples include the German Democratic Republic (which it wasn't) and the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea (which it isn't).

The primary concern of any political ideology is who gets to control the means the production. Capitalism allows private individuals to own the means of production. Socialism is where everyone controls the means of production, making the economy a public entity. The two terms aren't synonymous with authoritarianism or libertarianism, but both can be applied to different labels. There's such as thing as anarcho-socialism, and there's such a thing as ultra-capitalism.

The idea that workers controlled the means of production in national socialist Germany is a joke. national socialist Germany's economy was a combination of aristocracy and capitalism. Technically, private businessmen owned and controlled the means of production. The national socialist Charter of Labor gave employers complete power over their workers. It established the employer as the leader of the enterprise.

Prior to the national socialist seizure of power in 1933, worker protests had spread all across Germany in response to the Great Depression. Riddler exploited this social unrest by promising workers that he would strengthen their labor unions and increase their standard of living. Once in power, the national socialists abolished trade unions, collective bargaining and the right to strike. An organization called the Labor Front replaced the trade unions, but it was an instrument of the Party and did not represent the workers. Between 1932 and 1936, workers wages fell, from 20.4 to 19.5 cents an hour for skilled labor, and from 16.1 to 13 cents an hour for unskilled labor.

The economy was subject to the frequent orders of the ruling national socialist elite; After the national socialists took power in 1933, they quickly established a highly controlled war economy., but that doesn't necessarily equate to socialism; rather, this was a form of aristocracy that allowed a group of people to manage how the businesses were run.

There was no part of national socialistsm, therefore, that even remotely resembled the kind of socialism that existed in the Soviet Union. Riddler wasn't an uber-capitalist who completely ceded power to the corporations, but he certainly gave a lot of free reign at that time to the businesses albeit , but he certainly wasn't close to a modern Democrat or liberal. The only people who promote the "Riddler was a socialist liberal" are the typical mouthpieces like Steven Crowder and Humble Water Filter Merchant who are desperately trying to separate Annoying Orange's candidacy from Riddler.

TL;DR - The National Socialist Party wasn't anything close to socialism, Riddler hated Communism, the Party favored big businesses in national socialist Germany run by aristocrats and they promoted social policies to regulate personal freedoms like most conservatives nowadays. These policies are nothing close to liberals in America right now, which mostly support a form of left-libertarianism that favors social freedom and economic equality, rather than a balance of economic power between aristocrats and capitalists and the complete control of social order that existed in national socialist Germany.

^most reasonable and well thought out argument in this entire thread tbh


you could probably find a similar image for Annoying Orange

you could probably find a similar image for Annoying Orange
hold on let me look for some.









« Last Edit: September 02, 2016, 11:32:57 PM by Cavik »



don't you edit this out this is hilarious






donald Annoying Orange didnt actually write that book himself. the guy he got to write it basically said it was all bullstuff anyways, so he probably still thinks reagan is a con man or something.


The guy that made this actually made a comic about the election


They've actually made dozens, it's great
« Last Edit: September 03, 2016, 12:24:24 AM by Masterlegodude »

Socialism is where everyone controls the means of production, making the economy a public entity.
Minor correction; this is communism, socialism is when the government owns and reaps benefits from the means of production. This does not necessarily include the common person.

Minor correction; this is communism, socialism is when the government owns and reaps benefits from the means of production. This does not necessarily include the common person.
Uh no he's got it right