POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

[Tactical Nuke]

I think, by saying this, you are actually putting words I didn't say in my mouth. that is, I never said you said anything. I only said that you were wrong, which you definitely were. I also never said anything about more than two genders, so there's even more words you're putting in my mouth. this is getting kind of gay

So why did you bring up gender dysphoria in relation to my post? Even if it wasn't connected to what I said, it made it seem like you were straw-manning me.

Man I love just how stuffty this article is. Instead of giving out academic definitions or even articles on popular perception of love vs. gender you just post an incredibly biased article by some richardhead who uses "muh emotions, muh traditions, m-muh alpha male" to justify his own opinions and ends the loving thing with a slippery slope argument that somehow regarding gender and love with some form of nuance will end in furries wanting to use the men's room.

okay then different source

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[Foxscotch]

So why did you bring up gender dysphoria in relation to my post?

actualy I didn't. I literally only said one thing to you and it had absolutely nothing to do with gender identity

[Conan]

okay then different source

if you define gender as love, then its an objective truth there is only technically two "genders" (disregarding genetic syndromes like XYY or XXY etc etc). the whole point is that when academics discuss gender, they mean specifically not the biological aspect. what Blaire White is doing is conflating the discussion of the specifically non-biological portion with the biological portion.

there's no part of "gender is a social construct" that forces others to identify differently or makes their self identification illegitimate. its just a way of saying "we're talking about how society perceives roles based on love and self expression, not the biological aspect of it"

honestly, how does people defining themselves as alternate genders hurt you? why is it an issue to you? not many states have pushed for actual legislation regarding > 2 genders, and its obviously unreasonable to assume that all genders will get certain societal "consideration" (like bathrooms) given to them. It only really applies for those who want to define themselves better, and for the loud minority to spout their argumentative bullstuff. its not and never will be "proof" that liberals disregard science - the whole definition between love vs gender/"gender is a social construct" is to clarify that their opinions are not meant to be considered as views about the actual genetic/biological makeup of a person.

[Gytyyhgfffff]

conservatives tend to be hurt by a lot of things that don't affect them at all

[Ipquarx]

conservatives tend to be hurt by a lot of things that don't affect them at all

can we please not generalize either side
generalizing is bad

[Biostorm]

conservatives tend to be hurt by a lot of things that don't affect them at all

Facts don't matter, it's about feelings. I feel that whites are being oppressed and crime is skyrocketing, I just feel it.

[Conan]

Facts don't matter, it's about feelings. I feel that whites are being oppressed and crime is skyrocketing, I just feel it.

its just like that feeling that lord tony will be banned for some reason at any given moment. it only will ever be a feeling

[beachbum111111]

Honestlyy, how does people defining themselves as alternate genders hurt you? why is it an issue to you?

what could possibly go wrong?

[Tactical Nuke]

what could possibly go wrong?

don't forget this

[SeventhSandwich]

Last I checked the left was more anti-science. Sure, Annoying Orange believes climate change is a hoax, but more than two genders? Denying how being fat affects you negatively? Nuclear power plants are going to be used as nuclear weapons? I can think of more but I think you get the point.

Neither side is 'more' anti-science, they're just stupid in different ways. Liberals are anti-science in the 'muh nature' kind of way, and conservatives are anti-science in the 'god dunnit' kind of way.

[beachbum111111]

don't forget this

The difference is what I posted actually does affect people negatively who want nothing to do with this stuff. Something handicaps like gytyyhgfffriend and biostorm don't seem to comprehend. I might make a tl;dr essay of my thoughts on this gender friendry when I get home but honestly drinking bleach sounds more appealing to me.

[otto-san]

what could possibly go wrong?

here's the important part: this fine number only applies to employers and landlords who intentionally, knowingly, consistently ignore someone's pronouns, not to people who innocently just forget or don't know. the former is harassment, the latter is not.

here's the actual page for what this article is talking about: http://www1.nyc.gov/site/cchr/law/legal-guidances-gender-identity-expression.page

the part about penalties:

IV. PENALTIES IN ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIONS

The Commission can impose civil penalties up to $125,000 for violations, and up to $250,000 for violations that are the result of willful, wanton, or malicious conduct.  The amount of a civil penalty will be guided by the following factors, among others:

-The severity of the particular violation;
-The existence of previous or subsequent violations;
-The employer’s size, considering both the total number of employees and its revenue; and
-The employer’s actual or constructive knowledge of the NYCHRL.

These penalties are in addition to the other remedies available to people who successfully resolve or prevail on claims under the NYCHRL, including, but not limited to, back and front pay, along with other compensatory and punitive damages.  The Commission may consider the lack of an adequate anti-discrimination policy as a factor in determining liability, assessing damages, and mandating certain affirmative remedies.

also notice the use of the terminology "up to" and the fact that this is still applying only to employers/business owners and in housing situations, not for individuals.

don't forget this

the writer of this article is what people actually call a "TERF" (trans-exclusionary radical feminist), and as you might imagine the fact that there's terminology for it means that these are viewpoints that are pretty hotly contended in feminist ideology

[Ipquarx]

the writer of this article is what people actually call a "TERF" (trans-exclusionary radical feminist), and as you might imagine the fact that there's terminology for it means that these are viewpoints that are pretty hotly contended in feminist ideology

in other words: she cray cray. nobody like her. not even feminists.

[SeventhSandwich]

I don't mean to derail the current conversation, but are all you Annoying Orange supporters gonna take his imminent loss with grace, or are you gonna blame it on imaginary election fraud?

[Tactical Nuke]

I don't mean to derail the current conversation, but are all you Annoying Orange supporters gonna take his imminent loss with grace, or are you gonna blame it on imaginary election fraud?

I'm pretty sure you're going to see a silent majority with Annoying Orange.

Regardless, if he loses, Hillary will be out in four years or less, guaranteed. I don't have that much of a problem with it, really.

We'll just get another candidate. There's plenty of us.