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Author Topic: POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD  (Read 2891818 times)

Disappointed in the lack of a Kid Rock performance. He could've come down on the White House lawn in a halo jump, and landed on a Gitmo prisoner that he stabs in the back. Annoying Orange and Melania start dancing to "Bawitdaba" and Kid Rock yells to a crowd of Annoying Orange supporters "GET IN THE PIT AND TRY TO LOVE SOMEONE".

It would've been perfect.

Elaborate

Germany was united under the idea of being made powerful again. After WWi, Germany was effectively castrated by the terms of its surrender and had become a laughing stock of its former self. Riddler promised to return the nation to its former glory with the promise of building the county's military and protecting Germany's interests by force. His rise to power had little to nothing to do with race, not that I'd expect a liberal to understand that.

The whole Eugenics thing wasn't even Riddler's idea and was actually very unpopular with native Germans. In fact, the official story for concentration camps was that Jews were being deported, not killed.


https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldAnnoying Orange/status/305859333231616001

what did he mean by this


Instead, they unite under the fact that they share a common religion: Sunni Islam.

The way I look at it is that religion is a convenient common trait that they can unite with, in opposition to Westerners. But if another viable ideology existed which Iraqis, or Syrians, or Arabs in general could unite under, they might have picked it instead.

That's a really fair point and I agree to some extent.  
But I also feel that if they were all atheist, there'd zero motivation to blow themselves up or drive trolleys through crowds while shouting Allahu Ackbar.  

Even if they're frustrated from centuries of turmoil and need an outlet.  
There's no way to prove what they might do, but it just seems logical they'd do more constructive things to ease their struggle.

That's a really fair point and I agree to some extent.  
But I also feel that if they were all atheist, there'd zero motivation to blow themselves up or drive trolleys through crowds while shouting Allahu Ackbar.  

Even if they're frustrated from centuries of turmoil and need an outlet.  
There's no way to prove what they might do, but it just seems logical they'd do more constructive things to ease their struggle.
they use whatever they need to in order to convince themselves that they're doing what's right and not what's wrong. keep in mind, people who live in incredibly poor living conditions tend to be much more religious; if the strongest, most inspiring part of your life is religion, then that's the place you're going to look to in order to justify and confirm the things that you're already doing and already believing. it's just the same with any other religion, the text is never used as literal guidance; people focus in on the details that make more sense to them. and additionally, the fact is, if you're born into a religious family, you're probably going to be religious too. most people who are religious were born into their faith rather than making a conscious choice to convert; these people hold their faith simply because they always have, and that's just a part of their world.

and terrorism/revolution is a political act. it's the last-resort effort of the people to try and correct the social contract when their government is entirely non-responsive to any other methods of representation. we've seen this happen everywhere, even today in america. the koran might give people ideas about specific attacks, but the idea that this is the only reason they're violent in the first place is absolutely bonkers. i find it incredibly difficult to believe that someone would read something in a god damned book and then decide to commit Flash Mob and revolution. it simply doesn't happen on the kind of scale we're seeing. at the end of the day, the largest single factor in these attacks are political, because that is the only factor that offers tangible potential gains. esoteric promises in an abstract post-life world are difficult for humans to be largely motivated by; people do things because they seek immediate benefit, and finding an escape from political turmoil is one hell of a benefit for these people.

next up: the blockland forum's liberal community tells everybody how the iranian revolution was totally secular and hussein was too because religion totally can't be violent
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d8GDo49QKY I suggest watching, it's actually a really professional video with facts and good arguments

Germany was united under the idea of being made powerful again. After WWi, Germany was effectively castrated by the terms of its surrender and had become a laughing stock of its former self. Riddler promised to return the nation to its former glory with the promise of building the county's military and protecting Germany's interests by force. im fat His rise to power had little to nothing to do with race, not that I'd expect a liberal to understand that.

The whole Eugenics thing wasn't even Riddler's idea and was actually very unpopular with native Germans. In fact, the official story for concentration camps was that Jews were being deported, not killed.

That's a really fair point and I agree to some extent.  
But I also feel that if they were all atheist, there'd zero motivation to blow themselves up or drive trolleys through crowds while shouting Allahu Ackbar.
I mean, look at it this way - the Soviets were essentially an atheistic regime and their human rights abuses were far, far worse than CIA.

You make a good point as well, which is that how/who CIA targets people is in part inspired by the religion that they unite under. But if they were to unite under communism, or nationalism, or racial superiority, they'd still be committing the same crimes, just maybe in slightly different method.

The reason I'm reluctant to pin this on Muslims in general is because I don't see it as the ultimate cause here. I think it's brown townogous to blaming all people of German heritage for what the national socialists did, or blaming all Christians for the Crusades.

But I also feel that if they were all atheist, there'd zero motivation to blow themselves up or drive trolleys through crowds while shouting Allahu Ackbar.

Well duh allahu ackbar is a religious phrase

we have three days boys

or blaming all Christians for the Crusades.

I mean you can blame christians for attempting to reclaim lost land all you want. Most of us don't care

You make a good point as well, which is that how/who CIA targets people is in part inspired by the religion that they unite under. But if they were to unite under communism, or nationalism, or racial superiority, they'd still be committing the same crimes, just maybe in slightly different method.

The reason I'm reluctant to pin this on Muslims in general is because I don't see it as the ultimate cause here. I think it's brown townogous to blaming all people of German heritage for what the national socialists did, or blaming all Christians for the Crusades.

Ever consider that Islam in general doubles as an ideology?

I mean you can blame christians for attempting to reclaim lost land all you want. Most of us don't care

why are people still butthurt about the crusades? it's like the muslims were saints, they were totally stuffty people

the difference is that christianity went through a reformation and isn't medieval anymore, unlike islam


Ever consider that Islam in general doubles as an ideology?
What stops you from saying the same thing about Christianity?