POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

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Seuss' message with his comics was that "anti war" was the same as "let the national socialists trample over Europe"

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[Master Matthew²]

everybody understood that, beachbum. are you implying going to war to destroy the national socialists was a bad thing?

Well, we must have thought so, because for so long we were making lods emone selling weapons instead of fighting in the war.
The only reason we got into the war was because japan 9/11'd pearl harbor

[beachbum111111]

everybody understood that, beachbum. are you implying going to war to destroy the national socialists was a bad thing?

It's so much easier to make the decision of going to war on the losing side in hindsight isn't it?

Seuss' message with his comics was that "anti war" was the same as "let the national socialists trample over Europe"

Okay so how is that comic relevant to the now? Is being "anti war" the same as "letting Russia trample over Europe"?

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Okay so how is that comic relevant to the now? Is being "anti war" the same as "letting Russia trample over Europe"?

America First has a different meaning now. Whereas then it was about being anti-war, now it's about keeping out millions of people that need help.

[Master Matthew²]

America First has a different meaning now. Whereas then it was about being anti-war, now it's about keeping out millions of people that need help.

First of all, entering any country is not a right, people need to get this entitled mindset out of their damn head.
Number two, the only help we're giving them by being careless is running up an endless stair case.

Even if we do help these syrian refugees, there will be no way to tell the difference between refugees and jihadists, terrorists, islamists whatever you want to call it.

Our help will only be a detriment to ourselves and a waste of time to those we wish to help. We will end up just like europe.

We need to focus on cleaning up the middle east once and for all, none of this half assed pulling out and blue balling it. That results in unhappy accidents, like CIA.

We need to eliminate, or at the very least downsize the issue, before we can assist anymore victims.

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zero terror attacks have been committed by refugees in the US. most immigrants from the middle east who have caused any trouble are saudi arabian and egyptian, and guess which countries didn't get travel bans

[beachbum111111]

zero terror attacks have been committed by refugees in the US. most immigrants from the middle east who have caused any trouble are saudi arabian and egyptian, and guess which countries didn't get travel bans

http://www.sessions.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2016/6/at-least-580-individuals-convicted-in-terror-cases-since-9-11-at-least-380-are-foreign-born

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Of the 380 foreign-born, at least 24 were initially admitted to the United States as refugees

oh huh
pretty sure none were syrian, however. also, considering we've admitted probably 1 million refugees over the past 15 years, 24 people isn't bad.

[beachbum111111]

oh huh
pretty sure none were syrian

You are being an idiot on the bases of an irrelevant technicality. The reality is that there is an issue with terrorism and radical islam, both of which are most prevalent in war torn, third world stuffholes, and you trying to weasel your way around it through semantics wont change that.

also, considering we've admitted probably 1 million refugees over the past 15 years, 24 people isn't bad.

Sponsor some and house them yourself

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it's not semantics if the refugees we'd be admitting are all syrian

Sponsor some and house them yourself

how is this relevant

[Ipquarx]

The reality is that there is an issue with terrorism and radical islam, both of which are most prevalent in war torn, third world stuffholes

... Of which nobody from the countries that Annoying Orange's banned has actually taken a life. As opposed to several other muslim-majority countries which have taken dozens to thousands of lives.

If the ban is to stop terrorism, then it's utterly useless. He's not banning the places that have actually caused deaths, and it's only a 90 day ban. Oh no, the terrorists will have to wait 90 days to get to the US. Plans are utterly foiled, right?

how is this relevant

It's not, you don't "house" refugees

[beachbum111111]

it's not semantics if the refugees we'd be admitting are all syrian

Except they would be and you know it, it would be another situation like the EU where Four out of five migrants are economic migrants, not fleeing war

how is this relevant

If they have such a small risk of endangering american citizens and you have such a big heart to where you want to let them all in, why not sponsor some yourself instead of making the government do it?

... Of which nobody from the countries that Annoying Orange's banned has actually taken a life. As opposed to several other muslim-majority countries which have taken dozens to thousands of lives.

If the ban is to stop terrorism, then it's utterly useless. He's not banning the places that have actually caused deaths, and it's only a 90 day ban. Oh no, the terrorists will have to wait 90 days to get to the US. Plans are utterly foiled, right?

Pretty sure banning the war torn stuffholes and countries that are openly hostile to the US is a good start.

It's not, you don't "house" refugees

You can in Canada, pretty sure you can in the US as well.

[SeventhSandwich]

Pretty sure banning the war torn stuffholes and countries that are openly hostile to the US is a good start.

Why should being war-torn disqualify refugees from those countries? Isn't that literally the whole point of accepting refugees to begin with?

[Ipquarx]

Pretty sure banning the war torn stuffholes and countries that are openly hostile to the US is a good start.

If you wanna talk about an indefinite ban, then we'll talk, but this is just for 90 days. That's completely useless. If anyone is actually planning a terrorist attack literally all they have to do is wait 3 months.

If they have such a small risk of endangering american citizens and you have such a big heart to where you want to let them all in, why not sponsor some yourself instead of making the government do it?

Then how about you house a homeless veteran instead of making the government help them?

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Except they would be and you know it, it would be another situation like the EU where Four out of five migrants are economic migrants, not fleeing war

you're gonna need a different source than the daily garbage or else drop that point.

If they have such a small risk of endangering american citizens and you have such a big heart to where you want to let them all in, why not sponsor some yourself instead of making the government do it?

the government i help fund?