POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

[IkeTheGeneric]

Are Syrian citizens living in Syria under US jurisdiction?

I mean, they would if they're trying to come here...

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[extremely extreme]

The ban is unconstitutional because it violates the establishment cause. Making laws that discriminate based on religion is still illegal, even if the victims are non-citizens.

The ban doesn't discriminate based on religion though, it just bars immigration from 7 countries which were already chosen by the Obama administration.

I mean, they would if they're trying to come here...

Yea but they aren't here so your point is moot...

[LeisureSuit912]

The ban doesn't discriminate based on religion though, it just bars immigration from 7 countries which were already chosen by the Obama administration.

It specifically allows homeland security to "prioritize" refugees of the minority religions in these countries, which are Christianity and Judaism. Yes, it discriminates based on religion. No way around that.

[Nonnel]

Yea but they aren't here so your point is moot...

if they are immigrating here then it is fair to say that they are trying to come here, yes?

[extremely extreme]

It specifically allows homeland security to "prioritize" refugees of the minority religions in these countries, which are Christianity and Judaism. Yes, it discriminates based on religion. No way around that.

That may be, however they aren't protected by our laws so it doesn't apply.

if they are immigrating here then it is fair to say that they are trying to come here, yes?

You aren't listening to what I'm saying. If they are here, illegally or not, they are protected, if they aren't here and never were, they aren't protected.

[Nonnel]

You aren't listening to what I'm saying. If they are here, illegally or not, they are protected, if they aren't here and never were, they aren't protected.

That's not what you said, though. Ike said that people trying to come to the US are under US jurisdiction and you said that immigrants aren't trying to come to the US? which didn't make sense.

but to the other point, is it justified that we discriminate against people just because we are legally allowed to?

[IkeTheGeneric]

Yea but they aren't here

I would imagine that immigration attempts fall under US jurisdiction

[Kochieboy]

tag urslef as centerist too if you agree 👌😂

[IkeTheGeneric]

tag urslef as centerist too if you agree 👌😂

whoever made this image is very angry

[beachbum111111]

For master Mathew.

[IkeTheGeneric]

Is that a boot lamp? That's freaking crazy, holy stuff

edit: oh its a carrot lmfao

[Tezuni 2.0]

100% legal:  https://youtu.be/qrVxneiWOsM?t=4m3s

[extremely extreme]

That's not what you said, though. Ike said that people trying to come to the US are under US jurisdiction and you said that immigrants aren't trying to come to the US? which didn't make sense.

but to the other point, is it justified that we discriminate against people just because we are legally allowed to?

I don't know why it's so hard for you to understand what I'm saying. I've been trying to say this whole time that if someone isn't in the US then they aren't under US jurisdiction. Doesn't matter whether or not they're trying to come here, all that matters is if they're here or not.

 To your other point, this isn't a debate about morality, it's a debate about legality.

[Drydess]

Is that a boot lamp? That's freaking crazy, holy stuff

edit: oh its a carrot lmfao

if someone walks into your house just call it a boot lamp

[IkeTheGeneric]

Doesn't matter whether or not they're trying to come here, all that matters is if they're here or not.

If they are somewhere else and they want to come here, the act of coming here falls under US jurisdiction