POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

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More like "kill 1 person or hypothetically kill 100 people". I would clearly take the second option because it's purely hypothetical and hasn't happened, and is not likely to actually happen.

What are you even saying

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I'm sure the nuclear scientists and technicians doing their job in those nuclear facilities are the scum of the earth, raping every woman and torturing every child they see.

contributing to research that could potentially erase millions of lives from the earth? surrender or don't surrender but those sites have to go

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quoting the geneva conventions

lol

saying military jobs are just civilian jobs is not quoting geneva conventions, saying "non combatant jobs in the military should be treated like civilian jobs" is

they should be treated like them, but not specifically called them. A military job developing nuclear warheads is not a civilian job because the workers dont see any action

[PhantOS]

What are you even saying

A threat is not a human rights violation. Taking violent action due to threats is horrible military planning. It's 100x smarter to do helpful things, such as gather intelligence, rather than mount an assault that would kill real human beings

contributing to research that could potentially erase millions of lives from the earth? surrender or don't surrender but those sites have to go

sure. the only thing stopping us from taking out those sites is half of the developed world, the UN, NATO and other internationally binding organizations

lol

saying military jobs are just civilian jobs is not quoting geneva conventions, saying "non combatant jobs in the military should be treated like civilian jobs" is

they should be treated like them, but not specifically called them. A military job developing nuclear warheads is not a civilian job because the workers dont see any action

but it's operated by civilians. if you're developing nuclear warheads for the government or military you are literally still a civilian, unless that specific job is a wing of the military, in which you're no longer a civilian but a non-combatant.

Working a government job and working for the government are surprisingly two completely different things. The former is a legitimate occupation that is housed in the government, the latter is simply the government utilizing your services.

If you build airplanes that are used in the military, you work for the military. If you service those airplanes as a field technician, you are a military occupation. The nuclear scientists most likely fall into the first category, unless their trained in the military field

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but it's operated by civilians. if you're developing nuclear warheads for the government or military you are literally still a civilian.

No they're not. How high are you





Tell me where in the definition says that you working /  being in the military makes you a civilian. The civilian definition specifically says "not in the armed forces" aka not in a military job position.

You're just pulling stuff out of your ass at this point

Working a government job and working for the government are surprisingly two completely different things.

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sure. the only thing stopping us from taking out those sites is half of the developed world, the UN, NATO and other internationally binding organizations

so it's not about you losing sleep over some NK engineers who want to mass-murder innocent people, it's about diplomacy?

but it's operated by civilians. if you're developing nuclear warheads for the government or military you are literally still a civilian

military bases aren't operated by civilians

[PhantOS]

No they're not. How high are you
Tell me where in the definition says that you working /  being in the military makes you a civilian. The civilian definition specifically says "not in the armed forces" aka not in a military job position.

You're just pulling stuff out of your ass at this point
Military*

Here's how it works in the world:

There are nuclear scientists, who receive an education in nuclear engineering. They can either apply for a job at a private sector, such as a nuclear plant that produces energy, or a government agency, such as a nuclear facility that develops weapons. Regardless of which agency you work for, you are still a civilian worker.

There is no such thing as a field nuclear scientist. The military doesn't train nuclear scientists as a specialized field. They do, however, utilize nuclear scientists in their facilities. If you're a security guard at the facility, you may have received specialized training and may be part of the military. The nuclear scientists, however, are not.

so it's not about you losing sleep over some NK engineers who want to mass-murder innocent people, it's about diplomacy?

being born into a country that is repressive, trying to earn a wage to support your family isn't the same as wanting to 'Flash Mob' innocent people.

Engineers are non-combatants. they do not intentionally contribute to conflict, they just work, are present in the field and are civilians.

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or a government agency, such as a nuclear facility that develops weapons. Regardless of which agency you work for, you are still a civilian worker.

why the forget do you keep regurgitating the proven false mindset of "government / military jobs are just civilian jobs!!!" You're factually wrong yet you are acting like you're in denial lmao

trying to earn a wage to support your family isn't the same as wanting to 'Flash Mob' innocent people.

I never once stated this nor talked about it

[PhantOS]

why the forget do you keep regurgitating the proven false mindset of "government / military jobs are just civilian jobs!!!" You're factually wrong yet you are acting like you're in denial lmao

government / military jobs aren't civilians.

the government employs civilians to work for them, that doesn't mean they are government jobs / civilian jobs. The government employs lawyers, but lawyers are not government workers. The government employs economists, but they are not government workers. This is what i'm saying

Some of the people who are employed at the nuclear facilities are not government employees or military employees. they are just civilians employed by the government / military

I never once stated this nor talked about it

you need glasses.

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being born into a country that is repressive, trying to earn a wage to support your family isn't the same as wanting to 'Flash Mob' innocent people.

I understand that a portion of these people joined the military so that they could receive benefits from the military instead of some of the most intense subjugation worldwide in 2017. that's why we see a lot of NK soldiers making extremely dangerous journeys to defect to SK. and the rest are murdering and torturing people in prison camps.

Like I said I'm sure if the latter had actual positions to surrender to they would. But they don't.

Engineers are non-combatants. they do not intentionally contribute to conflict, they just work, are present in the field and are civilians.

People have already explained this to you and you don't get it but I'll take the bait anyway

You can't work on a military base and not be in the military. Everyone's military career starts in basic training learning to shoot at the enemy before they're allowed to build nukes. When push comes to shove these "civilian engineers" will take up arms and start shooting at you if ordered to.

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you need glasses.

I need glasses to tell you that I never stated nor implied that working in nk means you want to murder people???

Stop dude, you're not doing it right lol

[PhantOS]

I understand that a portion of these people joined the military so that they could receive benefits from the military instead of some of the most intense subjugation worldwide in 2017. that's why we see a lot of NK soldiers making extremely dangerous journeys to defect to SK. and the rest are murdering and torturing people in prison camps.

Like I said I'm sure if the latter had actual positions to surrender to they would. But they don't.

People have already explained this to you and you don't get it but I'll take the bait anyway

You can't work on a military base and not be in the military. Everyone's military career starts in basic training learning to shoot at the enemy before they're allowed to build nukes. When push comes to shove these "civilian engineers" will take up arms and start shooting at you if ordered to.

this entire post hurts my eyes

i never knew the military trained nuclear scientists like albert einstein or richard feynman to shoot guns

I need glasses to tell you that I never stated nor implied that working in nk means you want to murder people???

Stop dude, you're not doing it right lol

here i'll make it all bold so your non-glasses wearing eyes can see it

i was quoting rally

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here i'll make it all bold so your non-glasses wearing eyes can see it

[size= 20pt]i was quoting rally[/size]

rip

this entire post hurts my eyes

i never knew the military trained nuclear scientists like albert einstein or richard feynman to shoot guns

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

[PhantOS]

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

He's literally saying that everyone's military career starts with combat training, a completely untrue statement

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He's literally saying that everyone's military career starts with combat training, a completely untrue statement

99.99% of the time you want to join any branch of the military, you go through basic boot camp and combat training

unless if you'd like to prove against that instead of applying a strawman fallacy