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If every single one of the refugees go home and rebuild once the war is over, I'll get any Quran verse of your choosing tattooed on my left asscheek
oh! i have one
"...For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.... And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone)"

I maintain my position that they are opportunists trying to leave and many of them won't go back.
Fun fact: almost 80% of refugees who flee war never go back. This has nothing to do with them being muslim, this is refugees from all areas. Vietnamese, Jewish, Armenian. Once you migrate you usually settle in

In this case I wouldn't expect Syrian refugees to go back to Syria and repair it themselves, partially because it's the government's fault that 90% of syria was reduced to a warzone.



Thanks for further proving my point for posting a roostertail of 'they have wrong opinions!' rather than actual statistics on violence or crime.

Also all of these have really tiny sample sizes, good luck with that.
So you're saying that a vast majority in favour of having 'Sharia Law' replace the government and 'Outlawing Homoloveuality' are just 'wrong opinions' and not seriously damning evidence of cultural incompatibility.

You're a lost cause in so many ways.

So you're saying that a vast majority in favour of having 'Sharia Law' replace the government and 'Outlawing Homoloveuality' are just 'wrong opinions' and not seriously damning evidence of cultural incompatibility.

You're a lost cause in so many ways.
The vast majority of a 5,000 people survey? lol. beliefs aren't a threat to national security. if you really believed in this stuff you'd also advocate the deportation of all neo national socialists.

Beliefs can't be objectively judged, only violence and crime can. If you want to have a rational and objective discussion about this topic, please come back with some statistics on violence.
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The vast majority of a 5,000 people survey? lol

beliefs aren't a threat to national security. if you really believed in this stuff you'd also advocate the deportation of all neo national socialists.
And who said I didnt?

and besides, there is no country that wants Neo-national socialists...

ALSO what do you expect these people to do, sit down and survey ever source.
or are you willing to tell me that CNN, CBS, Forbes, Washingtonpost, mirror and the dailymail all output "Fake News"?

Either way, I'd be fine with you're response.

bear in mind that migrants cause 1% of all crime in Sweden.

I did some really basic math based on Sweden's crime rate and this means 14,581.36 crimes are committed by migrants. This statement means nothing. Migrants are like 10% of the population so of course they're going to commit less crime. The fact is shoving uncheckable amounts of refugees into a place is going to cause some major issues

I did some really basic math based on Sweden's crime rate and this means 14,581.36 crimes are committed by migrants. This statement means nothing. Migrants are like 10% of the population so of course they're going to commit less crime. The fact is shoving uncheckable amounts of refugees into a place is going to cause some major issues
So they're 10% of the population but commit 1% of the crime? that just kinda proves that they're even less deadly. Black people make up 12% of america's population but get charged for 30% of the crime, just for a little comparison.

Also if they're caught they are checkable. That statistic is only wrong if the suspect isn't found for the crime. You can't have undocumented people committing undocumented crime, because then it practically doesn't exist and you know nothing about it either.

So they're 10% of the population but commit 1% of the crime? that just kinda proves that they're even less deadly. Black people make up 12% of america's population but get charged for 30% of the crime, just for a little comparison.

It's much closer to 50% but sure

Beliefs can't be objectively judged, only violence and crime can. If you want to have a rational and objective discussion about this topic, please come back with some statistics on violence.

Translation: I cannot defend these clearly abhorent viewpoints, so instead I will only combat against you on violence statistics, because only certain facts matter.

Beliefs CAN be objectively judged, if they conflict with a majority view point, especially when they cross the line.
Unless you're okay with saying "executing people for being gay" is a controversial discussion that could go either way.

So they're 10% of the population but commit 1% of the crime? that just kinda proves that they're even less deadly. Black people make up 12% of america's population but get charged for 30% of the crime, just for a little comparison.
number one, that would me 10% of all refugees commit 1% crimes.
Number two, "get charged with" oh the oh so innocent, and never guilty people because their skin colour is darker, must be whitey's fault.
Also if they're caught they are checkable. That statistic is only wrong if the suspect isn't found for the crime. You can't have undocumented people committing undocumented crime, because then it practically doesn't exist and you know nothing about it either.
More reason to build the wall.

And who said I didnt?

and besides, there is no country that wants Neo-national socialists...

ALSO what do you expect these people to do, sit down and survey ever source.
or are you willing to tell me that CNN, CBS, Forbes, Washingtonpost, mirror and the dailymail all output "Fake News"?

Either way, I'd be fine with you're response.
Objectively, we live in a country where we have the freedom to express our opinions and believe in them. With that in mind, we shouldn't have an issue with people who believe whatever they want. Only if or when they commit crimes does it become an issue of national security.

Small sample sizes aren't 'fake news' they're just somewhat inconclusive data. When you interview 0.2% of a population in a specific area, you'll have some issues and outside factors, such as the area they're in, the people you're interviewing, etc. It doesn't reflect the rest of the 99.8% of the population well. Also saying "the majority of muslims advocate for sharia law!!!" is literally clickbait and a false title.

It's much closer to 50% but sure
I learn something new every day


Translation: I cannot defend these clearly abhorent viewpoints, so instead I will only combat against you on violence statistics, because only certain facts matter.
In this case, statistics about beliefs shouldn't determine whether or not an entire population is a threat to national security. That's just basic logic.

Thoughts do not injure people. Thoughts don't put lives at risk. If there are particular individuals who enter the country that say they want to kill all americans and blow up the white house, by all means they should be detained/deported/put on a terror watch. But saying "i wish gays should die" or "i wish the government should conform to my religion" is wrong but it's a belief, and people are free to believe what they want

If you want to represent a free country, you would have no issue accepting this. If you wish to punish people for their beliefs, you are literally a fascist.

Beliefs CAN be objectively judged, if they conflict with a majority view point, especially when they cross the line.
And here you are, continuing to spew your typical garbage while 90% of the forums disagrees with everything you say.
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Matthew do you believe in deporting people who want sharia law