POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

[Red Spy]

does that make the merging of church and state acceptable?

I guess I think about this differently but I see 'X is a y country' as the majority of the population and/or government being what the statement is describing. By population the US is a Christian nation because the majority of the population is Christian, and it's been this way for literally 200 years. I mean legally the government is nonreligious but if there was another religious revival and the country turned Taoist it'd be a Taoist country

I'm not crazy right

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[Deus Ex]

they didnt even bother providing a source for most of those claims, but the ones that are sourced are either from incredibly unreliable sources, or dont have anything to do with the claim it's making

in other words its complete stuff

Incredible unreliable sources according to whom? Which of these sources have been debunked by a consistently reliable fact checking site?

[SeventhSandwich]

I guess I think about this differently but I see 'X is a y country' as the majority of the population and/or government being what the statement is describing. By population the US is a Christian nation because the majority of the population is Christian, and it's been this way for literally 200 years. I mean legally the government is nonreligious but if there was another religious revival and the country turned Taoist it'd be a Taoist country

I'm not crazy right

You're not crazy but you're getting wrapped up in the semantics here. When people say 'Christian Nation', they mean a nation that uses government to enforce Christian laws/values.

I definitely don't recommend adopting the idea that the majority religion should get to do this, since Christianity is definitely not going to be the majority religion long-term.

[Rooged]

hey guys uhh

are you aware that sharia law literally only applies to muslims that live in the country? and explicitly mentions this, as to make an understanding that non-muslims do not need to adhere to sharia law

[SeventhSandwich]

Read up my friend

wow I'm loving the unbiased and reputable sources like 'jihadwatch' and 'dailymail'. it's almost like the evidence here has been cherrypicked and curated to fit one specific worldview

[Poliwhirl]

Incredible unreliable sources according to whom? Which of these sources have been debunked by a consistently reliable fact checking site?

the very first website, "jihad watch" is a known conspiracy / hate speech website, and has been described as such by the southern poverty law center and ADL

the second source given links to an article about darwinism in schools, with literally no mention of the incredibly bold claim it is making.

this website you linked makes no attempt to be credible and instead preys on people who see a number with a link next to it and assume that the claim following it must be true without even bothering to look into it

so yeah, its bullstuff.

[otto-san]

I disagree with the Muslim comparison. Muslims don't go out marching alongside CIA and other Islamic extremists. These protesters are aware that Antifa is there with them from the beginning. Perhaps it's because Antifa hasn't been classified as a terrorist organization that liberal protesters figure marching with them is okay.

I suppose some liberals think the presence of Antifa is helping their cause, but personally I would say it is much more detrimental. The general reception of the public to liberal activism becomes degraded when it is always plagued with anti-police violence. In my opinion it should be the responsibility of the protest organizers to make it clear that they want a peaceful protest and will stop the protest if things get out of hand.

i don't think that's an ultimatum that does any good. if people have already gotten violent, how do you expect people are going to stop them? i mean, the people who have no interest in violence can leave (and i expect a lot of them probably do), but unarmed civilians aren't exactly in the best position to tell people with guns and molotovs to cut it out. it's not my responsibility to make sure my neighbor doesn't throw bricks into other neighbors' windows

[Deus Ex]

the very first website, "jihad watch" is a known conspiracy / hate speech website, and has been described as such by the southern poverty law center and ADL

the second source given links to an article about darwinism in schools, with literally no mention of the incredibly bold claim it is making.

this website you linked makes no attempt to be credible and instead preys on people who see a number with a link next to it and assume that the claim following it must be true without even bothering to look into it

so yeah, its bullstuff.

Lol, okay, let's just ignore the rest of them then.
Jihadiwatch reported on info from The Jakarta Post, so I guess that's bullstuff too. I guess someone must have posted the wrong link on this, 'cause there's no reason for darwinism to be there. Kind of weird, but okay, whatevs.
You can easily google the Pew poll results. Here's the Washington Times reporting on it as well.
Considering those are the only sources you felt the need to criticize, I assume you either stopped reading, didn't bother to google anything to make sure it was bullstuff, or you just didn't feel like having your views challenged today and ignored everything else, Idk

wow I'm loving the unbiased and reputable sources like 'jihadwatch' and 'dailymail'. it's almost like the evidence here has been cherrypicked and curated to fit one specific worldview

Biased doesn't mean incorrect. Just means biased. I guess I'll wait for a reputable source like CNN or MSNBC to report on the disturbing amount of muslims that are perfectly fine with Jihadism, even if they themselves don't engage in it.
You guys can ignore it all you want, that's on you, but the rest of us know damn well.

[otto-san]

Biased doesn't mean incorrect. Just means biased. I guess I'll wait for a reputable source like CNN or MSNBC to report on the disturbing amount of muslims that are perfectly fine with Jihadism, even if they themselves don't engage in it.
You guys can ignore it all you want, that's on you, but the rest of us know damn well.

you're defending a biased source's information by saying that credible sources aren't reporting the same information. the problem is that biased sites like these exist purely to fuel confirmation bias. they can't be trusted on principle because they have a clear and defined agenda to only present information that they can construe as supporting the biases of them and their readers. even if the raw information is technically correct, it can still be grossly misrepresented and put in the wrong context, as is done with these figures (note: i've touched on this earlier and in other threads and i do know this is happening here, sorry i didn't do it in this post oops)

[Wesley Williams]

i don't think that's an ultimatum that does any good. if people have already gotten violent, how do you expect people are going to stop them? i mean, the people who have no interest in violence can leave (and i expect a lot of them probably do), but unarmed civilians aren't exactly in the best position to tell people with guns and molotovs to cut it out. it's not my responsibility to make sure my neighbor doesn't throw bricks into other neighbors' windows

I said to leave, don't keep marching alongside people shattering windows and throwing smoke bombs like at Berkeley.

[otto-san]

I said to leave, don't keep marching alongside people shattering windows and throwing smoke bombs like at Berkeley.

even then, i'm not really sure it solves anything. the media still views it as a riot because that's literally exclusively what it is at that point, and the point of the protest is lost. less optimistically, if police want to disband a protest, they just have to stage a riot and everyone who's peaceful forgets off and gets out of the way. fundamentally, i disagree with associating completely innocent individuals with the acts of de jure criminals. i bear absolutely no responsibility for the man next to me who decides to assault another man, no matter what collective we belong to at that instant, and i find it still highly unfair to insist or imply that this is or should be the case

[Foxscotch]

I said to leave, don't keep marching alongside people shattering windows and throwing smoke bombs like at Berkeley.

why? so that all someone has to do to stop a protest is throw some bricks?

[IkeTheGeneric]

online kids who have never felt strongly about things one way or the other give insight into just how pointless protesting is

[HellHound]

islam is not a religion of peace. anybody who believes that it is, is lying to themselves.

[Rooged]

islam is not a religion of peace. anybody who believes that it is, is lying to themselves.

have you ever done any actual like
research into islam

or are you just saying this bc you heard it on breitbart