doesn't address the point i made. the circumstances have changed greatly AND the tweet criticizing donald Annoying Orange's decision was written by a staff member, not bernie
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did you even
the video literally has Bernie saying on tape that Comey should resign
also what the forget are you talking about "circumstances have changed", Bernie wanted Comey out, then Annoying Orange fires Comey and he flips his position
how you extrapolate "everything's different now so my guy's inconsistency is validated!!!1!!11!!!!" from that is beyond me but frankly it's loving annoying
businesses still have an obligation to provide health care for their employees, if you can't do that much then you shouldn't expand. that's the reality of our current situation as a country trying to transition to socialist functions while still being held back by the detrimental effects of capitalism.
except they don't, because you get healthcare for yourself and not for somebody else
that is the fundamental idea behind healthcare
also "reality" and "socialism" should never be paired together in the same sentence with positive connotations
the forget are YOU talking about? you realize a "socialist democracy" entails the same thing as socialism, but with a more democratically-focused government, right? (rhetorical question, you evidently haven't done much research into this.)
I'm sorry I didn't do enough research, I just, you know, looked at the Merriam-Webster definition of socialism
or is that not real socialism
right, so literally exactly what i said? what in your response warrants the stuffty smug reaction picture? you just described the USA profiting off of wars to gain economic superiority, which is nearly verbatim my point.
it's less they saw an economic opportunity and more the looming threat of fascism from one empire and that we got attacked by another fascistic empire at the same time
but please continue with your warped sense of history
i also find it weird that you consider being told that you will have to work harder to produce these instruments of war or else you will be fired a willing and noble triumph of all the american people.
would you rather have the opposite where everyone is jobless, broke, and literally stealing food and silverware from restaurants that didn't shut down to get by?
keep in mind that the workers who created this "economic heaven" barely licked the crumbs off of the plate of america's vast wealth after world war 2. america would be nothing without its workers at that point, and yet a portion of those workers are stuck licking the boots of the superpower they created.
I can't read pure socialist jargon but I think what you're trying to say is that the people who worked during wartime didn't really want to do it and were forced, and that they didn't get a lot for it, all of which is patently false
"didn't want to do it" - they had no job beforehand and now they have a job that they can use to feed, clothe and properly house their family, which they couldn't before because of the Great Depression, plus they could actively support the rest of their family who were basically saving the world
"were forced" - literally illegal under US law, unlike in communist/etc. countries
"didn't get a lot for it" - the benefits they reaped literally created the middle class as we know it today
like i said, the ONLY reason that rich people fuel innovation is because they're the only ones that have access to the means by which they CAN create innovation. imagine if everybody had that capability.
nobody would have enough resources to innovate because the people with good ideas would get the same amount of resources as the people with bad ideas,
as per the definition of socialismand if you want to take it one step further, people wouldn't work as hard to realize these ideas, because regardless of what they do they'd still get everything the dedicated person does,
as per the definition of socialismstatistically, innovation would be guaranteed to increase, because there's literally more people working towards it without being held back by whether or not they got a nice inheritance from their parents or not.
because rich people don't work hard to get their wealth and power, they all just get it from their parents
who
worked hard to get their wealth and
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ooh look free stuff
also, please don't say stuff will "statistically happen" without providing statistics
where do you think you are
NeoGAF
are you kidding me dude? russia literally won the space race. russia was the first country to send a satellite into space, the first country to send a man into orbit, and they even ended up with more nuclear arms than us at the end of the cold war. they continue to have more, even now. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons)
point taken
I wonder how they got those people to work, though
wouldn't have been through the threat of Russian prison, would it?
again, imagine how much more convenient it would be if you didn't have to literally rip apart and scrutinize a company's RELEASED products (you fail to mention purposefully withheld / unreleased products, which allows them to essentially control the direction of the market when they release these products), and instead this was all just knowledge and information available to everyone?
you're talking about reverse engineering as though it's a chore, meanwhile you get paid a whole lot to do it and you get to figure out how things work
do you know how popular the show "How It's Made" is and other stuff like that?
I've been to four engineering camps and I'm going to be counseling at a fifth one, and every single time reverse engineering is brought up it's been a smash hit
every single time
you also fail to explain how companies can control the market with unreleased products when they don't release them, which every single company that wants to make bank will do with all of their technology eventually
otherwise it will get discovered via industrial espionage, which yes is illegal sometimes, but that's only sometimes
at some point it just becomes common sense that letting everybody access a pool of knowledge allows for the expansion of this knowledge.
wikipedia disagreesso you recognize there is a validity in my assertion, but you decide to completely loving blow it off in favor of upholding the status quo?
nice one, jackass.
if it works don't try to fix it
EDIT: I just remembered about the "ideal socialist communes" set up by the original settlers and how well that turned out, so in fact it has been tried out before and it has stunningly failed
and that's on a small scale
the proof is in the pudding my dude
literally the first comment on that socialist blog that you linked:
You may not be aware of this, but there is not a single Socialist country on that list. Every single one is a mixed economy, involving degrees of socialism, capitalism, and good ole fascism.
If you want to really understand what makes a country wealthy, you need to dig a little deeper.
David in Qatar
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alright? even if socialism did imply that everybody was placed in the position of a CEO, what would be the problem if they were just as educated and trained as the CEO, as socialism entails inherently? unless you're operating under the rancid assumption that CEO's are just superior people by default due to their ability to reach this position, i really don't see the problem.
who would these "CEOs" make the products for? who would craft them, or mass produce them? mass production isn't entirely automated yet, so you're going to need people to help make it, and even if it's totally automated, you're going to need people to check to see that everything is running properly
no one man can run an entire business unless it's really, really small
or am I just "thinking about this the wrong way" like the whole "decolonizing science" thing in South Africa
the fact that you consider any of that worthy of some kind of "blown the forget out" reaction is embarrassing and possibly reflective on how little you actually know if you really think you just obliterated socialism with that post.
I didn't think it, Kochie and Toxic did
I was giving a suggestion as to what reaction to use that would've conveyed the same idea that they did initially
also your initial post got "sperg out" reactions so let's not talk about who deserves what reaction kthx
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