POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

[Mega-Bear]

Appeal to authority, our government never lies

These are a lot of words to type in order to say "I am wrong and I know it but I don't wanna be wrong so I don't know it at all"

Get over yourself. You're calling people dense left and right but ipquarx is correct. Appealing to authority is not a fallacy if the authority in question is actually an expert on the subject. It becomes a fallacious argument when the authority has no bearing on the matter, e.g. "the president said cigarettes are good for you so they must be" is fallacious whereas "we evolved from ancient primates, evolutionary biologists say so" is not.

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[IkeTheGeneric]

Also, people felt Pence put the party before the state, and since Indiana is in majority a bunch of farmers, old people and blue collar workers, anyone in office that isn't strong on agriculture, trades/unions and social security is hated pretty heavily by the state.

edit: plus pence being weirdly against LGBT rights kinda made IN a laughing stock nationally for a bit. People here don't much care about LGBT stuff one way or the other, but they sure don't like being on the national news.

[Deus Ex]

Get over yourself. You're calling people dense left and right but ipquarx is correct. Appealing to authority is not a fallacy if the authority in question is actually an expert on the subject. It becomes a fallacious argument when the authority has no bearing on the matter, e.g. "the president said cigarettes are good for you so they must be" is fallacious whereas "we evolved from ancient primates, evolutionary biologists say so" is not.

forget off

The idea that because it came from intelligence agencies (well known for lying their asses it off) it must be valid is loving bullstuff and you know it
That on top of the fact that the best evidence they could come up with for anything is the (obviously fake) golden shower dossier and the (debunked) Crowdstrike evidence, if anyone still believes in Russian meddling it's kind of like thinking the earth is flat

[IkeTheGeneric]

forget off

The idea that because it came from intelligence agencies (well known for lying their asses it off) it must be valid is loving bullstuff and you know it
That on top of the fact that the best evidence they could come up with for anything is the (obviously fake) golden shower dossier and the (debunked) Crowdstrike evidence, if anyone still believes in Russian meddling it's kind of like thinking the earth is flat

And why should we listen to you on this? Why is YOUR insight more trustworthy than mega bear's or ipquarx's?

This post amounts to "You're wrong and stupid for saying this" and not much else.

[TristanLuigi]

forget off

The idea that because it came from intelligence agencies (well known for lying their asses it off) it must be valid is loving bullstuff and you know it
That on top of the fact that the best evidence they could come up with for anything is the (obviously fake) golden shower dossier and the (debunked) Crowdstrike evidence, if anyone still believes in Russian meddling it's kind of like thinking the earth is flat

Intelligence agencies aren't always truthful (that much was clear from the Snowden leaks), but they're the best authority we have on intelligence matters. I'm much more inclined to believe the CIA than some deep-state conspitribal on matters of national intelligence.

And if there was really no evidence, why would there be SEVERAL Congressional investigations that involve the matter, a Justice Department investigation, and e-mails leaked from the Annoying Orange campaign that show evidence of contact? And remember, these aren't partisan things - Congress is controlled by Republicans, while Mueller is a Republican and was director of the FBI under a Republican president.

Get off your loving high horse. You don't know more than actual experts in the field.

[HellHound]

deus "lol you're a moron is my only argument" ex

[Deus Ex]

And why should we listen to you on this? Why is YOUR insight more trustworthy than mega bear's or ipquarx's?

This post amounts to "You're wrong and stupid for saying this" and not much else.

You don't have to believe me, because I haven't made any claim other than I don't believe it. It's not my job to prove a negative, lol. Until they give me proof that Russia "hacked" or even so much as "influenced" the election it's total bullstuff. I see these handicaps trying to say POKEMON GO  was involved. Do you know how handicapped they sound?

Intelligence agencies aren't always truthful (that much was clear from the Snowden leaks), but they're the best authority we have on intelligence matters. I'm much more inclined to believe the CIA than some deep-state conspitribal on matters of national intelligence.

And if there was really no evidence, why would there be SEVERAL Congressional investigations that involve the matter, a Justice Department investigation, and e-mails leaked from the Annoying Orange campaign that show evidence of contact?

Several month long investigations that have turned up...? And what does that even mean, contact? Contact =/= collusion to usurp our democracy
That's the problem, all these hacks just use these vague concepts to try to steer the narrative in their direction
We went from russian hacking to russian collusion to simply russian influence. That's total bullstuff. We went from something that would be an act of war to "influence", something they are not only unable to prove but so common even the US does it on a regular basis without any repercussions. What's really funny is they're basically claiming Russia released factual info on Clinton, so she lost. I mean, loving come on.

[TristanLuigi]

it isn't just contact
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/07/11/us/politics/donald-Annoying Orange-jr-email-text.html

[Kearn]

i want pence to be president now

[TristanLuigi]

i want pence to be president now

why would you want someone with such a hard-on for theocracy in office

[Red Spy]

[Drydess]

i mean im fairly certain if it weren't for bullstuff like pizzagate clinton could've won by a landslide

[TristanLuigi]

i mean im fairly certain if it weren't for bullstuff like pizzagate clinton could've won by a landslide

honestly a lot of the attacks from the right were just manufactured controversies
several republican congressmen basically admitted that there was literally nothing of substance to the benghazi horsestuff, and that they just brought it up to scare people

and then there's the handicapped conspiracy theories like pizzagate and "cllinton assassinates ppl!!!"

[Red Spy]

and then there's the handicapped conspiracy theories like pizzagate and "cllinton assassinates ppl!!!"

i'm pretty sure everybody thinks this is dumb

[Deus Ex]

i mean im fairly certain if it weren't for bullstuff like pizzagate clinton could've won by a landslide

Yeah because the only problem people had with Hillary is child rape pizza parties