Real Talk: What should the world do about terrorism (CIA, etc.)? [Organized OP]

[C-Zech Chrome Ind.]

the problem i have with this is that there's not really any scientific evidence that loveual orientation can change afaik. that's part of why ex-gay therapy is criticised by medical institutions and considered pesudoscience. if it were just a preference you would expect that it could change at any given point.

(some reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/loveual_orientation_change_efforts)
i think there's definitely a degree of learned behaviour as far as attraction goes, or as far as what kind of things are loveually appealing (case in point: special interestes), but i don't think this extends to loveual orientation

this^

I can't wait for the "gender-fluids" to come and share their opinions
the anticipation and suspense is building

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[otto-san]

really though, we don't know for sure where loveuality comes from cus we're still unsure about how a lot of psychology works. tho i'm fairly certain scientists are going in the direction that it's determined at birth.

i'm not sure if there's more information on this now, but there's research that's found that every time a woman has a son, the chance of the next son being gay increases, even if they grow up in separate environments. i think this was further explained by the fetus actually being "feminized" by antibodies made by the mother or some stuff like that, which would make sense. but it's been a while since i've read up on that and i don't know how exactly to find an up-to-date source

edit: this seems to be what i was thinking of http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/05/men-older-brothers-gay_n_3873772.html

it's just another nature vs nurture debate i guess but this is one place where i'm pretty confident going with nature

[SetGaming]

yeah, i think so too. as you get older it usually just develops as well. and anyway, when you're a toddler you don't really give a stuff about loveuality or love or anything like that.

this; plus you don't really have any love drive so like you just do what your parents tell you to do

[otto-san]

yeah, i think so too. as you get older it usually just develops as well. and anyway, when you're a toddler you don't really give a stuff about loveuality or love or anything like that.

that's cus u haven't gone thru loveual development yet and learned how to touch ur willy like a girl would
actually babies and toddlers do masturbate sometimes

[Jairo]

learn how to touch ur willy like a girl would

sounds hot

[HooperScooper]

No.

You turn gay if you become a brony though

[Kingdaro]

the problem i have with this is that there's not really any scientific evidence that loveual orientation can change afaik. that's part of why ex-gay therapy is criticised by medical institutions and considered pesudoscience. if it were just a preference you would expect that it could change at any given point.

(some reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/loveual_orientation_change_efforts)

Well, sure, but it's just a stronger preference that happens not to change as often, if ever, and it's possible that it does fluctuate, but in ways that people don't ever really notice in their daily life. For me, I feel like I've always been bi, but I never really lean more one way or another in any given week. Sometimes I like girls more, sometimes I don't. For people who are mostly straight, there are probably times where they just won't be as attracted to the opposite love. A lot of factors can affect this, but that's the same for anything.

[otto-san]

idk i'm straight and i've never experienced that

[Kingdaro]

You won't notice it when you're not looking or thinking about other women. It's a massive psychological schrodinger's box for straight/gay people.

[Ipquarx]

real talk: can akio possibly bait any harder

baiting =/= making a topic to debate controversial topics. confused as to how you would take it as bait, but whatever.

A person making a topic to discuss one thing is pretty typical. Changing the topic to [insert other controversial thing here] whenever the debate starts dying down is very indicative of fishing for replies, AKA bait.

[Trogtor]

probably idk that's a tough one

[otto-san]

You won't notice it when you're not looking or thinking about other women. It's a massive psychological schrodinger's box for straight/gay people.

i'm not sure if other people have the same tendencies as me but i normally just passively feel attraction if i see anyone, it doesn't take a conscious effort

i don't want to sound dismissive by saying this, but have you considered that maybe that just seems standard to you because you're bi? people think in terms of their own experiences, and if you've always been bi, it would make sense that you'd have that expectation. not trying to be contentious or anything

[Akio-]

real talk: can akio possibly bait any harder

baiting =/= making a topic to debate controversial topics. confused as to how you would take it as bait, but whatever.

[Kingdaro]

i'm not sure if other people have the same tendencies as me but i normally just passively feel attraction if i see anyone, it doesn't take a conscious effort

i don't want to sound dismissive by saying this, but have you considered that maybe that just seems standard to you because you're bi? people think in terms of their own experiences, and if you've always been bi, it would make sense that you'd have that expectation. not trying to be contentious or anything

I thought about that, and maybe that's the case, but I've never believed that orientation was a concrete thing, and that it's the same way for everyone. The reason I believe that is because it's easier to let people state their orientation, and then just have that be their orientation, because what you identify as is your choice as a person. I believe the same for gender as well, and any other identity-related social construct, up to and including one's name.

[Donnies Catch]

i dont really have much to say about this topic i mean honestly who actually knows you dont remember being born or a long time after that.