Should the U.S take in any refugees from the Middle East?

[log]

we should at least set a quota

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[Ipquarx]

We would still have to house and feed them during the screening process on top of all the other administrative costs to carry out these screenings and deportations. The camps and holding facilities where they keep illegal immigrants awaiting trial and deportation are rife with mistreatment and poor living conditions. I can't image the refugees would fair much better. Why should we be burdened with the expenses of that to allow cowards and ideological enemies into our lands?

The costs actually aren't that large if done correctly, take Canada for example which has already taken in 25,000 refugees and plans to take in another 25,000 before the end of the year. Canada has used some pretty extreme screening measures, many of which could probably be eliminated for cost sake, and has done it all outside of the country, meaning we haven't housed them or fed them ourselves. If the US were to take notes from Canada on this they could do it for relatively cheap, saving the lives of tens of thousands for a tiny tiny fraction of the cost of war. Screening can easily take care of any potential dangers due to ideology as I've said.

And these people are not cowards, most of them simply can't kill other people or think that the war will not help no matter who wins. I'm not even going to get into a debate about conscientious objectors but advocating for their execution is more than extreme.

[Planr]

yes lol they're human beings

so were the national socialists. should we have welcomed them in instead of fighting them?

[otto-san]

so were the national socialists. should we have welcomed them in instead of fighting them?

the difference there i guess is that the national socialists were definitively the antagonists and refugees are victims

[Planr]

the difference there i guess is that the national socialists were definitively the antagonists and refugees are victims

considering over 70% of these "refugees" are young adult men without families, and considering the massive amounts of rapes, robberies, assaults and murders that many of these "refugees" have been inflicting over in europe (particularly in germany), i'd say the majority of these people should not be welcome here. these same "victims" have been causing terrible destruction and anarchy for the natural-born people living over there, and users who've experienced this first-hand, such as TAG, have attested to the truth of this. these islamic migrants deserve no favors from us nor do we owe them anything. if we are wise as a country we will reject them.

[SeventhSandwich]

so were the national socialists. should we have welcomed them in instead of fighting them?

That's a very salient brown townogy considering that most people in the United States opposed accepting Jewish refugees during World War II. Probably for similar reasons, too.

[Ipquarx]

considering over 70% of these "refugees" are young adult men without families, and considering the massive amounts of rapes, robberies, assaults and murders that many of these "refugees" have been inflicting over in europe (particularly in germany), i'd say the majority of these people should not be welcome here. these same "victims" have been causing terrible destruction and anarchy for the natural-born people living over there, and users who've experienced this first-hand, such as TAG, have attested to the truth of this. these islamic migrants deserve no favors from us nor do we owe them anything.

Weird, here in Canada we've taken in 25 thousand immigrants, and yet not a single report of a crime by said immigrants... Not a single rape, not a single murder, nothing... It's almost as if most of those problems are caused by lack of screening and illegal immigration or something.

Like yeah, no stuff there's gonna be problems when you have totally uncontrolled immigration.

[DrenDran]

yes lol they're human beings

No lol i dont let hobos into my home even if they're human beings

Weird, here in Canada we've taken in 25 thousand immigrants, and yet not a single report of a crime by said immigrants... Not a single rape, not a single murder, nothing... It's almost as if most of those problems are caused by lack of screening and illegal immigration or something.

Like yeah, no stuff there's gonna be problems when you have totally uncontrolled immigration.

Japan got away with only taking in 27 refugees.

Even so, two of them were arrested for a gangrape not even a year later lol

[Ipquarx]

Even so, two of them were arrested for a gangrape not even a year later lol

Yeah, they didn't screen the applicants either. That's what happens when you get lazy and don't screen.

[Trogtor]

if you want refugees in the US then by all means let them live at your place and no you cant complain when they steal stuff and rape you

[SWAT One]

Using solely humanitarian reasoning, yes, but using practical reasoning backed up by recent terror attacks, no.

On the sole basis that they are muslim, I couldn't care less.  I'm happy if they make America their peaceful home.  But I am all too wary of attacks recently.

[TristanLuigi]

This,

They should, but that doesn't mean all of them, or without checks in place, or without facilities to cope.
Easing the strain on Europe would be nice.

But I don't think the US or anyone is obligated to take in refugees.

this,

after thorough screening for any hint of extremism and making sure that they're not just an economic migrant, the US could take in several tens of thousands of refugees and evenly distribute them without any harm. Seeing as there's a significant chance of them being killed otherwise, the only kind option is to do so.

Seriously, screening isn't some hard thing to do when you have professionals doing it.

, and utilitarianism/humanitarianism.

Seriously, screening is not hard, and after that it's called being a decent human being. I guess that's just my internationalism speaking though - I have an intense hatred of nationalistic nonsense.

[Tayasaurus]

Take them in but be very picky about it.

[WaterOre]

Yes, so long as they are properly screened before being allowed entry into the country. If the screening works as intended, the only worry I would have is from bigots attempting to deny them a decent life, like with the Irish during the potato famine or the African-Americans during the Great Migration.

[sir dooble]

There's also the option of sending them back once the conflict in their country ends.
Although that throws up more issues regarding keeping track of people, co-ordinating the return, and also the question of when the conflict will end, if it ever does.