What is your opinion on Abortion

[sir dooble]

IMO, if the husband wants an abortion and the wife does not, he shouldn't have to pay child support. If he wants the child and she aborts it, he should be compensated. But you can't tell someone whether or not they will give birth.

This seems impossible to manage/impose.
Every father ever could declare they wanted an abortion and the mother didn't. Now there are more children being raised without full support of both parents, and fathers have an easy opt-out of their responsibility for creating a child (if you have love with a person you know that there is always a risk of pregnancy, and you are responsible for taking that risk).
When it comes down to it this will always be a case of one persons word against the other. Or should people sign some sort of pre-nup each time they have love formally declaring if they want an abortion for any potential pregnancy that occurs?

And as for people being compensated, how do you possibly do that? How do you put a value on a theoretical life?
You also open it up for men to control the bodies of women through financial coercion.
"Go through 9 months of pregnancy, 1-3 days of intense labour, have your body physically change, become unfit to work or live your normal lifestyle for months, and face the pressures of post-natal depression, OR, you pay me $100,000 in compensation for the life of my unborn child".
And what's to stop a man from threatening a woman this way into giving birth to a child they didn't want, and abandoning the child with the mother?
They could then even claim they wanted an abortion and get out of child support, under your rules.

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[Lord Tony®]

Abortion may have been a taboo concept back when premarital love was frowned upon.

Now we live in an age where we have love just to have love, not make babies.

Look how long until premarital love stopped being taboo? It still technically is.

[Lord Tony®]

So since 9/10 people agree we should have love just to have love then 9/10 should agree to have abortions, just to have it.

[MoltenKitten]

I think it should only be legal if it is rape or a danger to the mother. If you don't want to have a baby you shouldn't fool around, you should have to deal with the consequences of your actions. Imo a baby is alive at conception even though i'm not religious.

[Lord Tony®]

If you don't want to have a baby you shouldn't fool around, you should have to deal with the consequences of your actions.

This is coming from someone that has never had love.

Us humans have physical and emotional needs to have love you know.

[sir dooble]

This is coming from someone that has never had love.

Us humans have physical and emotional needs to have love you know.

They're just chemical reactions, Tony.

[Lord Tony®]

They're just chemical reactions, Tony.

That's correct.

Doesn't mean I won't act out on them.

[C-Zech Chrome Ind.]

Here's something from Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/insight-therapy/201204/why-do-we-have-love

I'll quote the last two paragraphs and the last sentence, which I think are most important.  But the link is there if you want the rest of the details:
"The results of such interaction rituals—whether at church or in bed--are also predictable: the solidarity between participants increases (at church, we’re united under God; in bed, we’re faithful to each other), the mental energy builds up (I'm strong in my faith; I am deeply in love). From the encounter, especially if it’s repeated, canonical memories will be chosen to symbolize the relationship to the partners (forty years in the desert; forty minutes at that boutique hotel in Ventura), certain objects will be imbued with a sacred quality (a cross; a wedding ring), and certain gestures will be chosen to clarify the boundaries of the relationship--demarcate what is ours only and distinguishes us from others (we drink the blood of Christ; only we can touch each other there).

According to Collins, a thorough understanding of loveuality is only possible if we look at it from the perspective of the social context, rather than examining it from the perspective of the individual. The dancer becomes such by virtue of the existence of the dance. Instead of saying "Every dog has its day," we should say, "Every day has its dog." You and your lover do not bring your loveual pleasure to the relationship. You get loveual pleasure from the relationship. Your body parts do not charge the relationship with loveual pleasure. The interaction charges your body with loveual pleasure. Pleasure is not derived from the physical stimulation of the genitals or from the possibility of giving birth to the next Bill Gates. In its most fundamental sense, loveual pleasure is derived from the synchronized cooperation between people. The whole of human contact is larger than the sum of its participating individual parts—possessing better resilience, greater wisdom, and deeper delights. Therefore we seek that whole everywhere, including in love.

At the end of the day, love is truly pleasurable because through it we may transcend our aloneness and form a meaningful bond with another human being."
Hence, marriage.  So we learn here that having love just for the hell of it really doesn't work, whether we're honest about it or not.  Therefore, you can understand why abortion is viewed as taboo.

[Satan From Wreck-It-Ralph]

abortion should be mandatory

[Path]

love is good, babies are bad
this is my opinion

[sir dooble]

Here's something from Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/insight-therapy/201204/why-do-we-have-love
Hence, marriage.  So we learn here that having love just for the hell of it really doesn't work, whether we're honest about it or not.  Therefore, you can understand why abortion is viewed as taboo.

I don't really take that from the article. There are good points that love is better with another person, who can respond to you and with who you can learn new things. But it doesn't have to be a person with a strong or lasting relationship. A one-night stand from a club, or even a prostitute as the article says, is simply a more rewarding and pleasurable experience than getting yourself off. If the connection and ritual were so important as to lead naturally to marriage, then there wouldn't be so many who have affairs, or refuse to settle down with one partner.

I'm also unsure how you connected it to abortion being taboo.
The article says that love is for a human connection, rather than pure loveual release. But it also says that most love is not procreational, and most would be appaled to find they had procreated. If anything the article can suggest that abortion would be a good thing, as having a child severely dampens your love life. As it stands it makes no comment either way on why abortion is taboo.

[Nickpb 3.0]

everyone should be required to have an abortion

[Rally]

everyone should be required to have an abortion

everyone except whites*

[elm]

I told my ex, if she gets pregnant, shes gunna have to abort it. Thank god she never did. I mastered the art of the pull out, dont ask me how..

[Headcrab Zombie]

Pregnancies are a deserving chore to people who were to lazy/rejecting to taking extra measures with protection.

Why do people think everyone who gets abortions gets it because they just thought "lol who needs protection I can just get an abortion"

That's terrible reasoning and undermines all the other cases of abortions.

Also,  this reasoning treats children as punishment rather than life. Someone who isn't responsible enough to use protection isn't going to make a responsible parent. Forcing an unwanted child on them isn't going to change that