Author Topic: Hillary cannot mentally run this nation  (Read 12190 times)

You know this dude keeps appearing on Humble Water Filter Merchant' channel? The dude who thinks the Illuminati controls us via chemicals in the water.
and because you're a vegan i should ignore everything you've ever said and any argument that holds merit that you've ever made
i understand that he believes in a very stupid conspiracy but i don't disregard every christian because they believe in a god
disclaimer: i'm not saying that i agree with pjw

honestly though, anyone who claims to know that someone has a mental illness (or other medical problems) without any formal examinations and without any legitimate diagnosis should not be taken seriously. this is nothing more than armchair psychology and should be treated as such

^ Hillary Clinton is more competent than anyone on this forum. Conservative armchair psychologists are usually desperate Annoying Orange-supporters on their last limb.

and because you're a vegan i should ignore everything you've ever said and any argument that holds merit that you've ever made
i understand that he believes in a very stupid conspiracy but i don't disregard every christian because they believe in a god
disclaimer: i'm not saying that i agree with pjw
The difference is that veganism is based on opinion, and his BS conspiracy theories are objectively untrue. If someone choosing to diet offends you, you should really take a look at your priorities.

It's not only that he supports Humble Water Filter Merchant's crazy stuff, literally this dude's most popular video is him saying that the 1999 $100 bill had secret messages inscribed that predicted 9/11. It's clear he is neither a reliable nor stable source of information. Him theorizing that Hillary Clinton has brain damage is no different than his other garbage.

Lol I love seeing this time and time again.  I guess every other Republican candidate who ran a campaign, then suspended it, then voiced support for Annoying Orange (except Cruz, but that's probably because Annoying Orange insulted his wife and father which is a pretty richard move) is also a sellout.  Yeah sure you could call it being a sellout, being a pusillanimous individual, etc. except for the fact that you're running for office with a national political party.

I've backed Bernie for the longest time and was incredibly disappointed with the democratic primaries.  The DNC forgeted everything up and it was always clear Hillary was going to rig her way to nomination.  The only reason Bernie didn't suspend and start supporting her before the convention was because he promised to go solo all the way to convention.  Up to the point of supporting her he was already being booed by fellow Democrats in Congress for not falling in with the party to have a unified front against Republicans (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/bernie-sanders-booed-house-democrats-225161).

You can be a candidate and fight for your beliefs all the way, which he absolutely did.  But the number one goal of the Democrats is to stop the Republicans and especially stop Annoying Orange from becoming president.  He's not a sellout for doing what he has to do, being a member of a national political party, which is to fall in line with the nominated candidate of the party and support them.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-Annoying Orange-wants-to-ban-the-internet-will-ask-bill-gates-to-close-it-up-a6764396.html

He did say he did and that he'd ask Bill Gates to do it which was pretty lol.  Of course no one took him seriously considering it's a human right, one person can't close the internet, and Bill Gates didn't even really do anything with the development of the internet as we know it.

So the guy who's whole political campaign was about ending corruption on wall Street decided to support one of the most corrupt politicians of all time because of "the ebl Republicans". Funny since Bernie recently bought a new car and bought a vacation home for 600k. I wonder who's money he was using...

^ Hillary Clinton is more competent than anyone on this forum. Conservative armchair psychologists are usually desperate Annoying Orange-supporters on their last limb.

You know I don't even know why people try talking to you at this point. Its pretty clear that you are a troll that has nothing of value to say.

Another gem from the reactionary alt-right cucksquad

Drop the political talk, you're just making yourself look like a fool

That's funny coming from you, the same handicap who said later in this thread that the USSR wasn't "muh true socialyst sistem"



That's funny coming from you, the same handicap who said later in this thread that the USSR wasn't "muh true socialyst sistem"
You're right bro. The USSR really was a Marxist Utopia.

You know I don't even know why people try talking to you at this point. Its pretty clear that you are a troll that has nothing of value to say.
It's pretty funny that you call me a troll before comparing the USSR to actual socialist policy. That's some Tony-level tactics. Ike is smarter than you--listen to him.

Molten has absolutely no idea what he's talking about considering one of the kinda biggest requirements of a socialist society is for democratic control of the production. forget, even a quick google search would show that the USSR was state-capitalist, not socialist. The nomenklatura (forgive me if this is a mistake I don't know much about russian history) was in complete control of the means of production iirc, not the workers.

If he wanted to cite a country or territory that is a testament to why socialism doesn't work, he could've said something like Cuba instead, but if there's a recurring trait of stupid people it's that they're almost always wrong about everything
Even so with the USSR, there was that "everybody gets equal" mentality except because of their stuff distribution it meant like the majority of populace had to wait in the bread line or eventually were allowed to get a car if they proved their worth/pay/etc.  Being a person of a higher class or position was the key to having anything remotely lavish in the USSR.

And even so regarding an irl socialist state:  current socialist countries include PR/China, Cuba, Laos, and Vietnam.  China is doing fairly well economically overall minus the hiccups here and there with their stuffty stock markets, albeit considering they're 1 billion plus growing it's kind of hard to even have anything remotely like the socialist state we'd want in America.  Cuba is doing okay, it wasn't doing hot in the past but it's slowly making it's way to doing better considering it had pretty stuffty leadership prior, with the addition of the US opening back up to Cuba (because god knows loving why we'd still be closed to them post Soviet collapse), it's bound to become the crown of the Caribbean in decades.  As far as Laos and Vietnam go they still have some stuffty leadership leading their socialist states.  A socialist state is only as good as the management making sure things actually go smoothly and prosperity without sacrificing quality for everyday people is the goal.

So the guy who's whole political campaign was about ending corruption on wall Street decided to support one of the most corrupt politicians of all time because of "the ebl Republicans". Funny since Bernie recently bought a new car and bought a vacation home for 600k. I wonder who's money he was using...
Probably his own paychecks.  He's a Jewish 74 year old who's been in Congress, House and Senate, since 1991 and has been living a pretty simple life til those purchases.  All his political campaign money was given to Hillary's campaign and the DNC, because that's how the political party operates upon candidates becoming a nominee and the un-nominated support them.  I think he's probably reaching the point of retirement soon after this election cycle (inb4 "see he's too old!!", try running for presidential nomination on a huge progressive movement and getting roosterblocked by the party establishment and media.  You'd be tired of that stuff too) and wants to just live comfortably with the money he's made having a great political career.  If he actually used campaign money, it'd be a massive scandal as long as we forget the fact that it isn't even possible since all campaign donations are publicly accounted for and Hillary/DNC take it as part of the political process.

That's funny coming from you, the same handicap who said later in this thread that the USSR wasn't "muh true socialyst sistem"
To be fair your arguments in this, your quoted post from Ike, and Ike's post you quoted don't rely on anything but slander and ad hominem.

You're right bro. The USSR really was a Marxist Utopia

The USSR was the closest thing a communist or socialist country will ever be to being successful.

Oh but of course it wasn't true socialism of course. Instead we should look for inspiration from countries like France or Greece, maybe even Venezuela. I'm sure their economies are doing great.

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To be fair your arguments in this, your quoted post from Ike, and Ike's post you quoted don't rely on anything but slander and ad hominem.

The post I was replying to in the first place was slandering anyone who didn't want to get forgeted over by Sanders.

Oh but of course it wasn't true socialism of course. Instead we should look for inspiration from countries like France or Greece, maybe even Venezuela. I'm sure their economies are doing great.
did you mean to say france and greece because i don't think you did

The USSR was the closest thing a communist or socialist country will ever be to being successful.

Oh but of course it wasn't true socialism of course. Instead we should look for inspiration from countries like France or Greece, maybe even Venezuela. I'm sure their economies are doing great.
It really wasn't though.  My parents and grandparents actually lived in the USSR.  To call it socialism is massively incorrect.  My mother's family lived a lavish lifestyle because my grandfather, her father, was a state attorney.  Nicer car, nicer larger apartment, more money, etc.  In contrast, my father's side lived a simpler life because they didn't work high up in the state or anything, they were probably only a bit above the common person.  The "socialism" in place was more like just flat out oligarchic communism, where the state owns the majority of like everything and people get whatever the state needs to/feels like ration/ing out.

France and Greece are absolutely horribly managed countries, not to mention the majority of western countries spend way too much on defense and god only knows how well that stuff's paying off in the long run.  Greece itself also ran itself totally aground by shelling out piles of cash just to host the Olympics in 2004.

Comparing planned socialism in the US to other countries in the world is laughable and impossible.  You really just can't compare the world's strongest economy to other nations that have a fraction of our power.

The post I was replying to in the first place was slandering anyone who didn't want to get forgeted over by Sanders.
The whole chain is the same.


Even so with the USSR, there was that "everybody gets equal" mentality except because of their stuff distribution it meant like the majority of populace had to wait in the bread line or eventually were allowed to get a car if they proved their worth/pay/etc.  Being a person of a higher class or position was the key to having anything remotely lavish in the USSR.

And even so regarding an irl socialist state:  current socialist countries include PR/China, Cuba, Laos, and Vietnam.  China is doing fairly well economically overall minus the hiccups here and there with their stuffty stock markets, albeit considering they're 1 billion plus growing it's kind of hard to even have anything remotely like the socialist state we'd want in America.  Cuba is doing okay, it wasn't doing hot in the past but it's slowly making it's way to doing better considering it had pretty stuffty leadership prior, with the addition of the US opening back up to Cuba (because god knows loving why we'd still be closed to them post Soviet collapse), it's bound to become the crown of the Caribbean in decades.  As far as Laos and Vietnam go they still have some stuffty leadership leading their socialist states.  A socialist state is only as good as the management making sure things actually go smoothly and prosperity without sacrificing quality for everyday people is the goal.
Probably his own paychecks.  He's a Jewish 74 year old who's been in Congress, House and Senate, since 1991 and has been living a pretty simple life til those purchases.  All his political campaign money was given to Hillary's campaign and the DNC, because that's how the political party operates upon candidates becoming a nominee and the un-nominated support them.  I think he's probably reaching the point of retirement soon after this election cycle (inb4 "see he's too old!!", try running for presidential nomination on a huge progressive movement and getting roosterblocked by the party establishment and media.  You'd be tired of that stuff too) and wants to just live comfortably with the money he's made having a great political career.  If he actually used campaign money, it'd be a massive scandal as long as we forget the fact that it isn't even possible since all campaign donations are publicly accounted for and Hillary/DNC take it as part of the political process.
To be fair your arguments in this, your quoted post from Ike, and Ike's post you quoted don't rely on anything but slander and ad hominem.

Like I said before my attention span is short and I only have access to a phone which is a complete shame because I have alot I wamt to say about this. But typing  up 3-5 paragraphs would be a nightmare on this phone. If you want to have s discussion by all means PM me but I probably won't answer until Wednesday

Yes, when I think "Socialism", I think "Greece".

Just like how when I think "Capitalism", I think "Uganda".

Like I said before my attention span is short and I only have access to a phone which is a complete shame because I have alot I wamt to say about this. But typing  up 3-5 paragraphs would be a nightmare on this phone. If you want to have s discussion by all means PM me but I probably won't answer until Wednesday
Gotcha, good and civil end here.

Yes, when I think "Socialism", I think "Greece".

Just like how when I think "Capitalism", I think "Uganda".
hey, uganda is an economic superpower and captalism paradise. dont underestimate them they got their stuff together faster than china did