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I would argue that video evidence of these individuals high up in influential/powerful orgs affiliated w/ HRC saying they have been and will continue to commit voter fraud holds a little bit more weight than a transcript of a podcast by a radio producer. One is a bit more of a credible/qualified source.
I've edited the post with some information about 538. It's one of the few political sites that is really worth trusting - their crew contains several esteemed political scientists, economists, and statisticians, including Nate Silver.

It's certainly better than a conspiracy theorist nutter on YouTube.
« Last Edit: October 18, 2016, 05:02:09 PM by TristanLuigi »

Jesus Christ, just lose with good sportsmanship. Am I disappointed that Sanders lost the Dem primary? Yeah. But it wasn't rigged - at the end of the day, the votes were totalled and Clinton won.

WHAT

DID YOU EVEN SEE THE EMAILS

WHAT

DID YOU EVEN SEE THE EMAILS

I think it boils down to that he doesn't think the emails hold any credibility

WHAT

DID YOU EVEN SEE THE EMAILS
Emails?

Whether you consider the primary rigged depends on how you look at DNC rules. It is not unprecedented for them to refuse independent voters - it's not a rule that they pulled out of their hat to sabotage Sanders. Is it fair? Absolutely not, and it could have cost him the election.

But like, are we forgetting the fact that the RNC just gave Colorado to Ted Cruz without even counting the vote?

But like, are we forgetting the fact that the RNC just gave Colorado to Ted Cruz without even counting the vote?

"Sure this bad thing happened but what about this other thing over here"

"Emails" likely refers to the Podesta emails that have been leaked by wikileask showing all sorts of slimy dealings INSIDE of the Clinton campaign. HRC is like the Midas of corruption.

WHAT

DID YOU EVEN SEE THE EMAILS
I think it boils down to that he doesn't think the emails hold any credibility
Partially this, partially that a lot of them weren't actually sent by Clinton, but mostly that the emails don't really mean the election was rigged. Yes, there was bias in the Democratic Party. For sure.

But the integrity of the voting process was maintained - the most popular candidate won the primary. It wasn't my choice, but that's fine - you can't win every battle. It's time to stop being sensationalist for the sake of it, or to kick and scream because something didn't go your way.

Bias isn't fraud, it isn't rigging, and it isn't illegal.

(Also, it's really hard to talk to you like a sane individual when you're typing in allcaps.)

"Sure this bad thing happened but what about this other thing over here"
Oh, come off it. Hasn't that been the strategy of the Annoying Orange campaign from the beginning?
« Last Edit: October 18, 2016, 04:43:55 PM by TristanLuigi »

WHAT

DID YOU EVEN SEE THE EMAILS
YEAH I DID HILLARY CLINTON IS A loving MONSTER

"Sure this bad thing happened but what about this other thing over here"
direct comparison between the dirty things that the DNC might've done and what the RNC did do

"Sure this bad thing happened but what about this other thing over here"
It doesn't excuse the DNC's corruption, but it definitely shows that Democrats aren't holding a monopoly on biasing their primaries towards establishment candidates.

Of course, because Annoying Orange won anyway, it's hard to use that as ammunition against his campaign, even though he still represents the RNC.

direct comparison between the dirty things that the DNC might've done and what the RNC did do
But even with their dirty tactics, the RNC's boy Cruz still lost.

If anything the RNC HATES Annoying Orange and want him to lose. They aren't doing jack stuff for him.

they aren't doing jack stuff for him because of all the stuff he's said
the gop doesn't want to be associated at all with Annoying Orange

they aren't doing jack stuff for him because of all the stuff he's said
the gop doesn't want to be associated at all with Annoying Orange
The GOP are just as corrupt as the Dems. It's no wonder that they want nothing to do with Annoying Orange. He's vowed to investigate corruption and they want to stop him because it would implicate the GOP as well.

i think it's more that they don't want to be directly associated with somebody who will be remembered poorly in history after he loses the election

voting is a bottom-up process; it happens in precincts in cities in counties in states, there are too many local levels for high-up party leaders to easily orchestrate a nationwide rigging operation and too many people to corrupt. it's not impossible that foul play could happen, but the amount of resources required to make any reasonable dent in electoral numbers is very slim

the electoral process for the president is also not direct. the majority of states are strongly affiliated with one party and all of their electoral votes will go to the party which wins a plurality in that state. in order to maliciously push the outcome of a red state in favor of the democrats, you would need to rig enough votes to win over the plurality in that state. which is to say, in a heavily red or blue state, that isn't happening.

in a swing state, however, maybe you have a chance. so let's take florida. in 2012, florida had a voter turnout of around 57% of the voting-age population (15,839,713). rounding that up to 60%, we can say that around 9,503,827 florida citizens voted in the 2012 presidential election. obama won florida by 74,309 popular votes. that means to shift the plurality in romney's favor, the republican party would have had to rig 74,310 votes, and if we're saying this was done by physically bussing people around to different counties, then it'd be pretty insane to think that nobody would notice seventy five thousand people committing en-masse voter fraud. in other swing states, this number grows, in iowa it'd be 91,927, in colorado it'd be 137,858.

it's definitely not impossible that this happens, but it's so highly improbable that i'm unconvinced anyone has the power to really make that much a difference. we're assuming massive rigging movements across the nation orchestrated by party authority, and the only power higher up party leaders really have over local leaders is money, and this is money that i don't think exists. i'd be willing to believe that fraud is happening and that some people are trying to play the system, but it's highly unlikely that anyone is able to inconspicuously pull off any conspiracy of significant scale. and as with all conspiracy theories like this, we're supposed to believe that the hundreds of thousands of people that would be involved in this process over apparently many decades have all just stayed quiet; that nobody would have ever come out about this corruption after all this time. i'm not sure i buy it.