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[Insert Name Here²]

Just because you align with the alt-right does not suddenly make you a neo-national socialist. Such as just aligning with the alt-left does not make you an SJW. Please stop pushing that false narrative.

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[beachbum111111]

Just because you align with the alt-right does not suddenly make you a neo-national socialist. Such as just aligning with the alt-left does not make you an SJW. Please stop pushing that false narrative.

There is no alt left. And Kimon is definitely an SJW. This has been established for a while

[Insert Name Here²]

There is no alt left. And Kimon is definitely an SJW. This has been established for a while

So there can be an alt-right but there can't be an alt-left because.. why exactly? Does the left get special treatment? Lol

Also I wasn't talking about Kimon, please don't change the topic.

[Poliwhirl]

the alt right is not a point on a spectrum, its a hate movement that you are only a part of if you claim to be. you can have farther right views than a majority of the alt right, but that doesnt make you a national socialist (which most of them are, openly).

[SeventhSandwich]

Alt-right isn't automatically synonymous with tribal, but if you self-identify as alt-right, browse /pol/, namedrop grand wizards of the kool kids klub, wear blackface, and write stand-up routines making fun of slain black teenagers, you might just be a tribal.

So there can be an alt-right but there can't be an alt-left because.. why exactly? Does the left get special treatment? Lol

There isn't an alt-left not because there can't be, but because nobody identifies that way and the term is meaningless. The closest thing to an alternative left right now is the Progressive movement.

[Insert Name Here²]

you can have farther right views than a majority of the alt right, but that doesnt make you a national socialist

if you dont agree with neo-national socialist views, dont call yourself a part of the alt-right.

Okay now you're flip flopping

There isn't an alt-left not because there can't be, but because nobody identifies that way and the term is meaningless. The closest thing to an alternative left right now is the Progressive movement.

Oh alright, that makes more sense

[rambo1220]

the alt right is not a point on a spectrum, its a hate movement that you are only a part of if you claim to be. you can have farther right views than a majority of the alt right, but that doesnt make you a national socialist (which most of them are, openly).

funny you say that because since you called Sam Hyde a alt-right neo-national socialist, I should mention that he's openly against being a national socialist/tribal.

hi my name is poliwhirl and this is my false narrative

[Poliwhirl]

Okay now you're flip flopping

??? im saying that you can be far right without being a neo national socialist, but if you call yourself a neo-national socialist then you're a national socialist.

funny you say that because since you called Sam Hyde a alt-right neo-national socialist, I should mention that he's openly against being a national socialist/tribal.

hi my name is poliwhirl and this is my false narrative

i said he's associated with it, because he has an alt-right following. it looks bad on him professionally.

btw, you can say "racism is bad" and still be tribal, all it takes is a lack of self awareness.

[SeventhSandwich]

I should mention that he's openly against being a national socialist/tribal.

So are actual neo-national socialists. People who are tribal and smart recognize that self-identifying as tribal is a deathtrap for their ideology.

Richard Spencer doesn't call himself a national socialist, but he's a white supremacist, quotes national socialist literature, and supports ethnic cleansing. A spade is still a spade even if the label is unpopular.

[Insert Name Here²]

??? im saying that you can be far right without being a neo national socialist

But earlier you said you can't be a neo national socialist without being alt right, which means if you're alt right, you're a neo national socialist, and now you're suddenly changing your opinions entirely

what are you even doing lol

[rambo1220]

so saying you're not tribal or a national socialist means you're a tribal or a national socialist?

alright you're both genuinely stupid.

[Darryl McKoy]

so saying you're not tribal or a national socialist means you're a tribal or a national socialist?

Should have gone to specsavers

[SeventhSandwich]

so saying you're not tribal or a national socialist means you're a tribal or a national socialist?

No, lol.

It means that people who are tribals/national socialists will not self identify as tribals/national socialists because they understand that the term itself is harmful to what they believe. That does not mean, conversely, that people who don't use the term are tribals/national socialists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent

[Poliwhirl]

But earlier you said you can't be a neo national socialist without being alt right, which means if you're alt right, you're a neo national socialist, and now you're suddenly changing your opinions entirely

what are you even doing lol

this is all stemming from your misunderstanding of my posts. let me lay it out for you

alt-right = neo national socialist
alt-right =/= farther right political views
farther right political views =/= neo national socialist

so saying you're not tribal or a national socialist means you're a tribal or a national socialist?

alright you're both genuinely stupid.

you're misunderstanding him, too. hes saying that tribals commonly say they arent tribal, because that wpuld immediately out them as a scumbag. doesnt change the fact that they're actually tribal.

[Insert Name Here²]

alt-right = neo national socialist

alt-right =/= farther right political views

farther right political views =/= neo national socialist

the alt right is not a point on a spectrum, its a hate movement that you are only a part of if you claim to be. you can have farther right views than a majority of the alt right, but that doesnt make you a national socialist

You're contradicting yourself and flip-flopping with every post you make. You really need to think through what you're posting before you actually post it lmao