Poll

Which?

Republican Party
33 (47.1%)
Democratic Party
15 (21.4%)
Libertarian Party
5 (7.1%)
Green Party
5 (7.1%)
Constitution Party
2 (2.9%)
Other
10 (14.3%)

Total Members Voted: 70

Author Topic: [Poll] Which political party of the US do you prefer  (Read 6696 times)

So is 'degeneracy' just the new catch-all term for queers, liberals, non-Christians, and all other undesirables that ultraconservatives want to see thrown out of the country?

I mean considering the majority of the world used to be conservative and society has degenerated from that, yeah.

I mean considering the majority of the world used to be conservative and society has degenerated from that, yeah.
is that like, the actual rule of thumb that we want to use? what people did 300 years ago

is that like, the actual rule of thumb that we want to use? what people did 300 years ago

Probably less than that in most instances.


Probably less than that in most instances.
Or even like 60 years ago tbh.


I mean considering the majority of the world used to be conservative and society has degenerated from that, yeah.
we also used to have slavery and mass genocide so i mean

we also used to have slavery and mass genocide so i mean

oh i'm not saying those were highlights

oh i'm not saying those were highlights
can you name some specifics of the 'good old days' that you want to see us return to?

can you name some specifics of the 'good old days' that you want to see us return to?

unity of church and state, the christian standard of morality, a unified country and a government that promotes patriotism and a strong work ethic while glossing over insignificant things such as microaggressions

glossing over insignificant things such as microaggressions
oh like how white people acted when black people used a different bathroom or sat at the front of the bus lmao

oh like how white people acted when black people used a different bathroom or sat at the front of the bus lmao

well yeah lol

a unified country and a government that promotes patriotism and a strong work ethic while glossing over insignificant things such as microaggressions
I'm pretty sure we still have all that. We're a unified government, we reward patriotic military/civil service, and although we're a far less libertarian society, it's not like a strong work ethic is suddenly worthless in society.

The whole microaggressions thing is just a dumb trend among a small subset of liberals. Our government doesn't punish people for microaggressions anyway.

I'm pretty sure we still have all that. We're a unified government, we reward patriotic military/civil service, and although we're a far less libertarian society, it's not like a strong work ethic is suddenly worthless in society.
The whole microaggressions thing is just a dumb trend among a small subset of liberals. Our government doesn't punish people for microaggressions anyway.
Somewhere between 1 and 60,000,000 people are dissatisfied with our current president and there is always in-fighting in parties and between parties. We're mostly unified on paper, not in practice. Also, I was referring to a combination of government and society when I listed those things, but I want to believe you're right about the culture of outrage being a passing trend.

Somewhere between 1 and 60,000,000 people are dissatisfied with our current president and there is always in-fighting in parties and between parties. We're mostly unified on paper, not in practice.
This isn't new though, and we had basically the same disputes when our country was founded, except it was Federalists versus Jeffersonian Republicans. It's been over threetwo hundred years and we still haven't decided whether the US should use big or small government, and which to what extent. It will never be solved and it'll always be a sort of tug-of-war between both ideologies, but as long as we don't start a Civil War over it, we should be fine.

I want to believe you're right about the culture of outrage being a passing trend.
I lived in a pretty insular liberal community for many years, and the whole culture of outrage is basically a lack of understanding on both sides. Liberals by-and-large do not understand that prematurely labeling people as national socialists and tribals effectively terminates any chance of a productive dialog happening (this is something I admit to being guilty of myself). On the other hand, conservatives can't seem to tell the difference between trendy Tumblr SJWs - versus people who are activists because their rights are at stake. Both these problems prevent people from peaceably solving these issues since both extremes are too quick to label the other as tribal or SJW.

I do think it's a passing trend because I think that liberals will have to reassess their tactics in the next four years. We're pretty bad at winning local elections, and our party establishment gave an unfair edge to a candidate that was probably the most unpopular among Democrats. What we're doing isn't working.
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