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no it didnt

As I looked through it now. It technically did but the system was very corrupt.

Your position is being an autistic sperg Nonnel.
how bout i sperg my foot up your ass

Finding 'objective' morality does not matter if you genuinely believe human beings are wired as such to seek out higher purposes.
It's only a matter then of finding people who agree on the same purpose as you (a nation), and then creating a state together.
how about agree on your own purpose and then live peacefully with other people who believe in different purposes

I figured I'd try and give a personal answer, instead of stuffposting.
It's kind of refreshing, but like, you should recognize that political ideology doesn't necessarily translate into the results you want. Communism and Fascism sound great on paper, but history paints a different picture.

how about agree on your own purpose and then live peacefully with other people who believe in different purposes
You can't realize live peacefully with people who have vastly different moral systems than you do. Besides, a bunch of people working towards a purpose as individuals will never be able to achieve much at all. You need to work together to achieve truly great things, and you need a state custom tailored to those aims.
It's kind of refreshing, but like, you should recognize that political ideology doesn't necessarily translate into the results you want. Communism and Fascism sound great on paper, but history paints a different picture.
What I'm talking about is not specific political proposals. I honestly have no idea how I'd actually go about making my ideal government in practice. My posts just vaguely philosophic rants.

As I looked through it now. It technically did but the system was very corrupt.
estado novo was quite good, actually

the country was industrialized, the leader actually had some consideration for the working class, he was a great person. it was one of the few times the country prospered

Communism and Fascism sound great on paper,

No both are extremely evil on paper what are you talking about

But if you don't have any ideology that affects your daily life, then what are you making all daily decisions based off of? Entirely your own selfish pleasures? There's nothing wrong with seeking pleasure but there should be more to life.

Easy I make a thread on /pol/, ask what to do, and then whatever answer gets dubs is what I will do. I've shot up so many schools

In all seriousness I see what your getting at. But you can't deny that it can be easily manipulated.

estado novo was quite good, actually

the country was industrialized, the leader actually had some consideration for the working class, he was a great person. it was one of the few times the country prospered

I noticed that when Portugal refused to give up her colonies that the British and others said they were blind to the "winds of change"

That sounds like a modern day "ITS CURRENT YEAR" excuse.

Also didn't Spain prosper under Franco?

You can't realize live peacefully with people who have vastly different moral systems than you do.
i mean, yeah, you can,

You can't realize live peacefully with people who have vastly different moral systems than you do. Besides, a bunch of people working towards a purpose as individuals will never be able to achieve much at all. You need to work together to achieve truly great things, and you need a state custom tailored to those aims.
nothing needs to be achieved. the only goal all people can agree on is happiness, and if people can find happiness by themselves and without taking away the abilities of others to find happiness, then you've already made the perfect state.

I noticed that when Portugal refused to give up her colonies that the British and others said they were blind to the "winds of change"

That sounds like a modern day "ITS CURRENT YEAR" excuse.

Also didn't Spain prosper under Franco?
no idea about Spain
all I know that all elder people I've talked to had good things to say about estado novo

You can't realize live peacefully with people who have vastly different moral systems than you do.
"Moral systems" being a proxy for race and politics. I've gotta disagree on that.

"Moral systems" being a proxy for race and politics. I've gotta disagree on that.
Actually, I meant the opposite.
Many people think the U.S. is "diverse" because it has people of different national origins and races, but I'd say it's not very diverse at all.
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i mean, yeah, you can,
No. And no offense but I don't think you'd really know. You probably live in a first world country where there's virtually no ideological diversity.
Everyone agrees on many things: separation of church and state is good, freedom of speech is good, human rights exist and should be respected, the welfare state is beneficial to some extent, there should be a separation between the legislative and executive branches of government, democracy with universal suffrage is good, infanticide is wrong, making laws ex post facto is wrong, you shouldn't invade other countries for any reason unless you're attacked first, etc.

If you had a fascist, a communist, a member of CIA, and an anarcho-capitalist, living together, much less people from different eras of human history, they'd never be able to get anything done.


nothing needs to be achieved. the only goal all people can agree on is happiness, and if people can find happiness by themselves and without taking away the abilities of others to find happiness, then you've already made the perfect state.
That's just it though. Plenty of people throughout history rejected happiness in order to please their god, continue their race, expand their state, and do all sorts of things. If all we care about is "being happy" how are we any different than animals?


That's just it though. Plenty of people throughout history rejected happiness in order to please their god, continue their race, expand their state, and do all sorts of things. If all we care about is "being happy" how are we any different than animals?

Nah man the only thing that matters is that your happy in the peepee

That's just it though. Plenty of people throughout history rejected happiness in order to please their god, continue their race, expand their state, and do all sorts of things. If all we care about is "being happy" how are we any different than animals?
we are different from animals because we have the mental capacity to create, think, and reason. that's it. we're not some higher ascended being cast to overcome the beasts, we're animals that evolved. there is no set purpose in life except what you set for yourself. it's generally agreed that the final purpose in life is to live comfortably and/or doing something you enjoy doing. as far as i can figure, anyone who "rejects happiness" is just a self-righteous turd. but hey, if you find happiness in ""rejecting happiness,"" then good for you.