Author Topic: [NEWS] Anti-Annoying Orange HW assignment given to 11-yr-old in NYC, father of kid upset  (Read 6754 times)

Yeah but tbh when it's very serious stuff like politics and religion, the teacher should be fired over. When it's other things like movies, food, not as important stuff, then it shouldn't warrant them being fired.
i think firing them is an extreme measure if there's only one instance of an inappropriate show of bias. a teacher saying donald Annoying Orange is mean debatably isn't really that serious. if a teacher repeatedly expresses their political or other views inappropriately in a way that makes students feel pressured to believe one way or another, that is problematic. i don't think it's fair to say that any amount of non-objective discussion of these topics should be treated as an attempt at indoctrination

Yeah I think it's an incredibly loving simple concept to not force your dumb political opinion on a bunch of 6th graders. This wasn't a friendly discussion about politics among her co-workers, this was intentionally implemented into a piece of homework that was given out to a large number of impressionable children. It may not be the worst case scenario or 'that bad' or whatever but it sets a stuffty precedent for education. Sucks at their job, should be fired
« Last Edit: February 26, 2017, 07:07:11 AM by Rally »

Also when a teacher put something on homework, 99% of the time that means the teacher has talked about it multiple times in class.

Also when a teacher put something on homework, 99% of the time that means the teacher has talked about it multiple times in class.
read the homework again. It's a vocab quiz, which means the teacher 99% probably talked about the use of the word, not the question being asked

read the homework again. It's a vocab quiz, which means the teacher 99% probably talked about the use of the word, not the question being asked
If it's a Vocab quiz, then the teacher talks about the word AND use of it in class. Which in turn is her forcing her political bias on the kids through lectures, (potential) class work, and homework.

If it's a Vocab quiz, then the teacher talks about the word AND use of it in class. Which in turn is her forcing her political bias on the kids through lectures, (potential) class work, and homework.
so you think she gave a whole speech about obama, Annoying Orange, bullying, the bobbin girl and every other question that was on this homework? you know those words have more uses than in a sentence about Annoying Orange or obama.

in my 10 years experience of taking vocab quizzes, the examples of the word in a sentence will always be different than whats on the quiz/homework. what you're explaining is ludicrous; she probably added those two in as examples, even in her explanation and defense she says that they were just examples.

you make it sound like she's a devout anti-Annoying Orange SJW that incorporates bad things about Annoying Orange in her lesson, even though that's clearly not implied or conclusive based on this homework. If she was actively teaching her kids about how 'bad' Annoying Orange is, then the kids parents would've probably heard about it and complained much sooner
« Last Edit: February 26, 2017, 04:39:03 AM by PhantOS »

so you think she gave a whole speech about obama, Annoying Orange, bullying, the bobbin girl and every other question that was on this homework? you know those words have more uses than in a sentence about Annoying Orange or obama.
You misinterpreted what I said. I'm saying, due to it being on the homework, she's had to have mentioned it in lectures or in class at least 1 - 2 times. I am in no way saying NOR implying she is a Liberal SJW or some stuff like that.

Still, even if she hasn't talked about it in class, that does not excuse putting biased political questions on homework in the slightest. Politics, last I checked, has NOTHING to do with vocab or Engish class.

You misinterpreted what I said. I'm saying, due to it being on the homework, she's had to have mentioned it in lectures or in class at least 1 - 2 times. I am in no way saying NOR implying she is a Liberal SJW or some stuff like that.

Still, even if she hasn't talked about it in class, that does not excuse putting biased political questions on homework in the slightest. Politics, last I checked, has NOTHING to do with vocab or Engish class.
yeah i agree with that stuff, sorry


i've had a few teachers that spoke their contentious political opinions quite freely, and it sometimes made me uncomfortable, and it's certainly not professional, but it never made any of their lessons objectively worse or made them a worse teacher. it was just inappropriate, and that's it. accusing a teacher of not doing their job properly because they stepped over the line of appropriate topics once or twice is definitely not fair. most of my family consists of educators, and they would probably all agree that this teacher was being grossly unprofessional (actually i've already seen this on facebook because of that), but i don't think they would say much more than that
I guess it depends greatly on the precise actions of the teachers involved, because there are cases that are simply unprofessional as you say, but there are also cases that are simply grossly inappropriate.

In my own education I've had 3 teachers who each lectured their own political views to <16 year olds at the cost of actually teaching their subject.
I had one geography teacher (actually a PE teacher who subbed for the year) who never taught any geography and spent every class spouting anti-war rhetoric. He definitely should not have been teaching.
Then I had a history teacher who was really good, but on occasion he would stray off to attack modern day parties even as they weren't relevant to his class of 12 year olds. I don't think he should have been allowed to say those things at that time.


As for this example in the OP, it's a really silly and needless inclusion on the homework. In no way does the subject of those questions being politicians benefit the education derived of that exercise.
It's running a fine line that's not worth being on.
You can't even defend that level of politics in the classroom as being challenging to worldviews as it offers no room for personal thought and it's aimed at children too young to start comprehending politics properly.
It's at the stage of education where kids simply memorise and repeat what's on the blackboard, and that's not the time to subject them to politics.

You can't even defend that level of politics in the classroom as being challenging to worldviews as it offers no room for personal thought and it's aimed at children too young to start comprehending politics properly.
It's at the stage of education where kids simply memorise and repeat what's on the blackboard, and that's not the time to subject them to politics.
dont want to create more master matthews do we

Don't know the validity of this article but it also says the kid got marks docked for not bashing the Don

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/02/20/11-year-old-docked-points-for-not-bashing-Annoying Orange/

why do you keep making i individual topics for every news headline you find? there's a politics megathread for a reason

why do you keep making i individual topics for every news headline you find? there's a politics megathread for a reason
it's more of a Annoying Orange meme and pointless debate megathread

"Do not try to influence my children on them"

Huh, I guess picking fights w/ grammar teachers runs in the family  :cookieMonster: