Video of Michael Davidson shooting released

[PhantOS]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cleared-shooting-man-waving-wallet-graphic-video-article-1.2995182

the cop was cleared too. what the actual forget.

also 'waving wallet' is misleading. he was shot as soon as he stepped out of the car, and later waved his wallet while he was on the floor bleeding out

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From how he held it and from the video, it does look like he was holding a gun

[beachbum111111]

The cop in the car is Nobot.

[PhantOS]

From how he held it and from the video, it does look like he was holding a gun

think about it.

if he was an off-duty police officer and he stepped out to show his badge, he would've been shot too. His wallet probably had the proof of service in the air force, and he was going to show that to the police.

regardless, he said put your hands up and then immediately shot him like 3 seconds after. i dont think you can even process those instructions that fast, especially since it's uncommon for police to pull over and tell you to step out with your hands up. i've gotten pulled over before and the police walk over to my window, they dont tell me to step out with my hands up

he could've died in this incident

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Again, the way he was holding it, it still looked like he was holding a gun, off duty, service or whatever

not saying this makes shooting him okay, but in his defense, it does look like he was holding a gun when he got out in the awkward way he did

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Doublepost: If you were a cop and you told someone to "get out and put your hands up" and when they get out all awkward and the dude is holding something black like this, you'd think it would be a gun too

[PhantOS]

Doublepost: If you were a cop and you told someone to "get out and put your hands up" and when they get out all awkward and the dude is holding something black like this, you'd think it would be a gun too

as a police officer with the potential to end a life in an instant, you're not supposed to go into this situation ready to shoot anything that remotely looks suspicious. its obvious that if this kind of stuff can happen that easy, they need to be trained differently, or there needs to be some sort of measure the police take first before immediately shooting.

keep in mind that if a police officer is entitled to kill someone for holding an object in their hands, that means that the police officer is 10x more legally powerful than the average person. think of the exploits that can happen as a result under the pretense of 'it looked like a gun'

[Unwritten Calender]

as a police officer with the potential to end a life in an instant, you're not supposed to go into this situation ready to shoot anything that remotely looks suspicious. its obvious that if this kind of stuff can happen that easy, they need to be trained differently, or there needs to be some sort of measure the police take first before immediately shooting.

you're supposed to go into the situation ready to shoot anything that looks deadly. stepping out with something black in between your hands is a great way to get yourself shot, especially with the way the world is today

[Arekan]

as a police officer with the potential to end a life in an instant, you're not supposed to go into this situation ready to shoot anything that remotely looks suspicious. its obvious that if this kind of stuff can happen that easy, they need to be trained differently, or there needs to be some sort of measure the police take first before immediately shooting.

keep in mind that if a police officer is entitled to kill someone for holding an object in their hands, that means that the police officer is 10x more legally powerful than the average person.

The thing is, you'd be dead if you "took some sort of measure before immediately shooting" if that was a gun.

[Insert Name Here²]

as a police officer with the potential to end a life in an instant, you're not supposed to go into this situation ready to shoot anything that remotely looks suspicious. its obvious that if this kind of stuff can happen that easy, they need to be trained differently, or there needs to be some sort of measure the police take first before immediately shooting.

When you're a cop, you'd realize these types of situations can go south extremely fast, which is why you have to be ready to take action no matter the situation.

If you go to a situation as a cop expecting everything to be okay and nothing will happen, then you are trained wrong. If you are a cop and you go into a situation knowing that it can go bad very fast and you have to be prepared, then you're trained correctly.

As a cop, you have to be ready and be able to think on your feet and take action against things that look deadly or suspicious, especially when it seems like the guy is legitimately holding a gun.

It can be this fast: *pulls a guy over, the guy gets out and is holding something thats black in a suspicious way that looks like a gun and got out very awkwardly* "gotta follow pro-" *the cop is shot*

[PhantOS]

The thing is, you'd be dead if you "took some sort of measure before immediately shooting" if that was a gun.

there needs to be some sort of compromise. someone can't just be shot for holding a wallet and the world just says 'oh well it looked like a gun. time to move on'

obviously his life is now forgeted up, probably had to undergo months of training to walk again, traumatic disorder, etc. 'hopefully this mistake won't happen' is a terrible plan for anything.

When you're a cop, you'd realize these types of situations can go south extremely fast, which is why you have to be ready to take action no matter the situation.

If you go to a situation as a cop expecting everything to be okay and nothing will happen, then you are trained wrong. If you are a cop and you go into a situation knowing that it can go bad very fast and you have to be prepared, then you're trained correctly.

As a cop, you have to be ready and be able to think on your feet and take action against things that look deadly or suspicious, especially when it seems like the guy is legitimately holding a gun.

It can be this fast: *pulls a guy over, the guy gets out and is holding something thats black in a suspicious way that looks like a gun and got out very awkwardly* "gotta follow pro-" *the cop is shot*

i understand that this is how a situation should be dealt with. however, if cops are trained to deal with every suspicious situation 'with no hesitation' then people will die, get injured, etc.

100% of these situations aren't going to harm the police officer, so you shouldn't train the cop to react this way to 100% of the situations

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cop coulda taken cover imo if it was a gun

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there needs to be some sort of compromise. someone can't just be shot for holding a wallet and the world just says 'oh well it looked like a gun. time to move on'

If you're a cop and it legitimately looks like the guy is holding a gun, even after he got out in a very awkward way, he is justified for shooting him (he didn't shoot him in a lethal area too, so the cop actually knows what to do)

cop coulda taken cover imo if it was a gun

car doors are terrible for cover, bullets can easily go through

however, if cops are trained to deal with every suspicious situation 'with no hesitation' then people will die, get injured, etc.

Not the issue nor what I'm saying

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cop coulda taken cover imo if it was a gun

yeah and let the situation escalate if it really was a gun in his hand

[ZombieDude]

there needs to be some sort of measure the police take first before immediately shooting

are you going to give some ideas on what this 'measure' could be or just keep virtue signalling