[REAL NEWS] Annoying Orange signs cutback on carbon regulations

[SeventhSandwich]

Fun-fact. There were deadly smog events even before the 'liberal media' and 'climate change' were even mainstream subjects.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Smog_of_London

"The Great Smog of 1952, sometimes called The Big Smoke ,[1] was a severe air-pollution event that affected the British capital of London in December 1952. A period of cold weather, combined with an anticyclone and windless conditions, collected airborne pollutants – mostly arising from the use of coal – to form a thick layer of smog over the city. It lasted from Friday, 5 December to Tuesday, 9 December 1952 and then dispersed quickly when the weather changed."

No I think it's a multitude of different polluting agents and chemical waste. I don't believe it all comes from coal.

Such as what? Which other pollutants in specific?

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[PhantOS]

No I think it's a multitude of different polluting agents and chemical waste. I don't believe it all comes from coal.

It doesn't all come from coal, but coal makes up the majority of it. there are some other deadly elements like arsenic and sulfur, but that also comes from the coal refinery process

[Rabbot32]

If we set all the coal veins on fire, we could stop companies from burning coal.

[PhantOS]

Coal burning also produces a huge amount of sulfur dioxide which results in acid rain and is also a carcinogen

[Darryl McKoy]

This is why I don't think it's a big deal. Plus, I think they effects are largely overstated.

I still want to see you support why you think that.

[Corderlain]

Fun-fact. There were deadly smog events even before the 'liberal media' and 'climate change' were even mainstream subjects.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Smog_of_London

"The Great Smog of 1952, sometimes called The Big Smoke ,[1] was a severe air-pollution event that affected the British capital of London in December 1952. A period of cold weather, combined with an anticyclone and windless conditions, collected airborne pollutants – mostly arising from the use of coal – to form a thick layer of smog over the city. It lasted from Friday, 5 December to Tuesday, 9 December 1952 and then dispersed quickly when the weather changed."
Such as what? Which other pollutants in specific?

You're telling me during the most carefree pollution period in history a smog only lasted a few days before weather changed and hasn't happened in the US since? Sounds like a serious issue.

[Donnies Catch]

I really don't think this is a big of a deal as you all are making it out to be.

i respect ppl having controversial opinions but uh..........

[Darryl McKoy]

hasn't happened in the US since?

Yes the great smog of london was a serious issue for the US. Comprehension on point.

[PhantOS]

You're telling me during the most carefree pollution period in history a smog only lasted a few days before weather changed and hasn't happened in the US since? Sounds like a serious issue.

You strawmanned his argument

[Magus]

Coal burning actually causes more cancer than nuclear power plants literally any other form of power generation. Nuclear power plants contain the radiation, while coal plants vent carcinogens into the atmosphere.

[Rabbot32]

The argument falls apart when you remember how different they are, but yeah.

[Planr]

I'm in favor of coal power, but there needs to be strict regulations in place that require coal power plants to have strong filtration systems for any exhaust they create. kind of like modern cars.

pollution is very real. the smog example seventh mentioned earlier is a prime example.

[SeventhSandwich]

I still want to see you support why you think that.

He has no justification. I almost wouldn't mind the layman critique on mainstream science if it was grounded in any sort of real argument, but that's never the case. You press them to justify why they think toxic fuel sources are less-harmful than research shows, and the explanation always just boils down to, "lol, it's just what I think, I guess."

You're telling me during the most carefree pollution period in history a smog only lasted a few days before weather changed and hasn't happened in the US since?

It 'lasted a few days' and killed approximately 12,000 people. To put that in perspective, you're minimizing the impact of a disaster that killed 4x more people than 9/11.

Also, similar disasters have happened in the US (although none at the same degree as the London smog, obviously).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Donora_smog
Killed 20, sickened 7000.

Other honorable mentions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Southeast_Asian_haze
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Malaysian_haze
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Southeast_Asian_haze
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Southeast_Asian_haze

[Corderlain]

Still don't think with modern filtration systems and increased dependence on wind, solar, and nuclear power that this is a large issue.

Yes the great smog of london was a serious issue for the US. Comprehension on point.

Fat fingered when typing UK. At work and in a hurry so didn't notice.

[PhantOS]

Still don't think with modern filtration systems and increased dependence on wind, solar, and nuclear power that this is a large issue.

This is the literal definition of denial

if filtration systems were a high priority Annoying Orange would be keeping the carbon regulations, since the 'filtration systems' regulate carbon. without some of these regulations, they may not even be required to use one anymore. It will save them a ton of money